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[DaveC]

Hi,

As others have posted here before, new-build Openreach FTTP installs have a small enclosure that fits over a standard recessed single or double socket back-box.  This seems to give a much tidier finish than the standard "screw ONT to the wall" install that the rest of us get, and also provides some physical protection.

This video from Openreach shows one being installed:

https://www.openreach.com/building-developers-and-projects/fibre-for-developers/how-to-self-install-openreach-equipment

I discovered yesterday that there seems to be a supply of these on ebay - for around £11-£13 you can buy what appears to be a "developer self-install kit" including a useless ONT, plus the enclosure.  Searching for "HG8010h5-20" will find them.

I'm still years away from getting FTTP myself, but thought I would post this in case it's helpful to others wanting to clean up their install.

I'm also assuming that with adequate prepartion (i.e. a pre-drilled hole at the ONT entry point going into an already-mounted back-box), an engineer would be happy to use it on a new install - it would save him drilling two holes...

Also, if you have CAT5e/6 cabling in your walls, you could even bring that cable directly into the enclosure via the back-box, removing another trailing cable.  And for perfection, a POE splitter could power it - the splitter could live in the back-box itself, behind the enclosure.

[meritez]

I'm gettting a  from the other half.

[Alex Atkin UK]

What bothers me about those enclosures is it seems to make airflow even worse.  How do they not bake the ONT?

[DaveC]

What bothers me about those enclosures is it seems to make airflow even worse.  How do they not bake the ONT?

They seem relatively large, compared to the ONT itself, and have ventilation holes on one side.  You would have hoped that Openreach thought about that.

Is overheating an issue for ONTs?

[Alex Atkin UK]

They seem relatively large, compared to the ONT itself, and have ventilation holes on one side.  You would have hoped that Openreach thought about that.

Is overheating an issue for ONTs?

I'd think not, but then they usually are in the open.   I couldn't see vents in the video which is what concerned me.

[tiffy]

This enclosure has been mentioned before on the forum:
https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,25685.msg431757.html#msg431757
However, no supply source was identified then.

In preparation for my impending FTTP install (if BT/OR ever actually manage to complete the order) I was planning to fit a flush box, quite easy to do in a timber framed house, but was not sure if a single or double box would be best, this post has been quite opportune, will proceed with a double box fitting, many thanks for the information.
I plan to run an ethernet cable to the box also so the router can be situated at the best Wi-Fi coverage location.

Not completely sure what is meant by "includes a useless ONT", presumable a dummy?
Obviously the OR supplied ONT will be the unit actually commissioned.

The e-bay unit cost is reasonable but £4.50 is a bit steep for 2nd class Royal Mail delivery.
However, can't find any other supply source so ordered.
Have never liked the usual OR ONT "stick on the wall" install so this has got to be an improvement. 

[burakkucat]

I'm certain that I have both one of the small [1] and one of the bigger [2] enclosures tucked away in "The Cattery". Both deserve a new home.

Anyone interested?

[1] Designed for either the Huawei HG8010H5-20 or Nokia G-010G-Q 1+0 ONTs.
[2] Designed for the Huawei HG8110H-20 1+1 ONT.

[DaveC]

Not completely sure what is meant by "includes a useless ONT", presumable a dummy?
Obviously the OR supplied ONT will be the unit actually commissioned.

Yes, if I understand correctly it will be locked down so the user can't configure it for a none-Openreach service, and Openreach won't commission it on their network - perhaps "unusable" was the word I was looking for.  I guess it gets you a spare power supply and patch cable though.

Good luck with your install - please let us know how it goes.

[tubaman]

This seems to make things bulkier and worse looking than just having the ONT mounted directly to the wall. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

This seems to make things bulkier and worse looking than just having the ONT mounted directly to the wall. 

That's what I was thinking.  Sure it tidies the cables a little but at the cost of taking up a lot more space.

Now if it had a UPS and the PSU built-in then sure, but otherwise its just converting a small ONT into a huge ONT.

[DaveC]

That's what I was thinking.  Sure it tidies the cables a little but at the cost of taking up a lot more space.

Now if it had a UPS and the PSU built-in then sure, but otherwise its just converting a small ONT into a huge ONT.

It gives you the space to have a POE splitter in the backbox behind the enclosure - so it's possible to completely hide all the cables.

That's the main reason I would probably go for this enclosure.  I agree, if there are still externally visible cables, then there is little/no advantage to it.

[Alex Atkin UK]

It gives you the space to have a POE splitter in the backbox behind the enclosure - so it's possible to completely hide all the cables.

That's the main reason I would probably go for this enclosure.  I agree, if there are still externally visible cables, then there is little/no advantage to it.

Which I suppose might work on a new-build where its easier to pre-install ducting for all the wiring, thus why it exists.  I can only dream of having a networking closet, there is literally nowhere in the house one could go.

[burakkucat]

. . . if it had a UPS and the PSU built-in then sure, but otherwise its just converting a small ONT into a huge ONT.

The enclosure for the Huawei HG8110H-20 (1+1 ONT) was also designed to hold a BBU.

[tiffy]

This seems to make things bulkier and worse looking than just having the ONT mounted directly to the wall.

Yes, possibly so, but in my case I had intended to fit a flush box anyway and very likely a second box for an ethernet point as the projected ONT install point is certainly not where I intend to situate the router/Hub, I can quite easily run a new Cat.6 cable up to the roof space (bungalow) and so eliminate an visable external loop to a new ethernet wall socket.
Probably won't go to the trouble of POE powering the ONT as my existing switches don't support but it could be a future option.
Do the current OR issue Huawei or Nokia ONT's actually support POE?

The OR FTTP installs I have seen to date (family and friends) are not what I would describe as "pretty", mounted adjacent to the wall entry holes, not covering, with the ONT very easily detached, accidentally or otherwise, by a very slight upward movement, at least with the enclosure the attachment will be more secure and the entry hole covered.

[Reformed]

Do the current OR issue Huawei or Nokia ONT's actually support POE?

No.