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[meritez]

I'm just adding bits to this thread as I find them.
I have seen that this issue might be due to lack of VLAN ID tagging. So I might try adding this to the Zyxel settings for one of the LAN ports.

Vlan id tagging is not required beyond the zyxel, vlan is only required for the DSL cable port on the zyxel.

[TylerDurden]

What is this page on the router for?

[TylerDurden]

I have read this.
"VLAN ID = 101 is needed on all routers running on Fibre on all ISPs"

Here
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-home-phone/Using-own-Router-VLAN-Support/td-p/899258

[tubaman]

I'm just adding bits to this thread as I find them.
I have seen that this issue might be due to lack of VLAN ID tagging. So I might try adding this to the Zyxel settings for one of the LAN ports.

You already have VLAN set up on the Zyxel - it's the 802.1q=101 setting. The fact that you connected with a laptop configured with your PPPOE credentials proved that VLAN is working as intended.
I'd connect your EE router to the Zyxel and if that works try proceeding as @burakkucat suggested.

[TylerDurden]

Ok. I have it working. After a suggestion via private message (thank you to that person) Here is a guide that should help anyone suffering the same issue.

Completely boot the Zyxel in bridge-mode, waiting for the power light and WAN light to be solid lit.

Only then, connect LAN4 of the Zyxel to the WAN port of a fully reset and unplugged Google Nest Router.

Plug in the Google Nest Router.

(The Google Nest WiFi Router will look at the first MAC ADDRESS it finds when connected.)

Once the Google Router led has started to pulse white run the set up from the Google home app. Add your PPPOE details when you get the chance and you should be good to go. 👍

[tubaman]

Excellent news 
Sounds like Goggle Nest is a bit fussy about starting with a clean config if it's going to play nicely.

[TylerDurden]

Indeed, now if I could just figure out how to access the Zyxel modem from my network that would be great......

[meritez]

Indeed, now if I could just figure out how to access the Zyxel modem from my network that would be great......

Why would such an expensive router only have 2 ethernet ports?

[tubaman]

Indeed, now if I could just figure out how to access the Zyxel modem from my network that would be great......

If you have a free LAN port on the Nest then you can do it like this - https://kitz.co.uk/routers/zyxel_VMG8324-B10A_bridge.htm
For single cable follow @Crysailis instructions (reply #9) - https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,20226.msg353554

I'd save the current config on the Zyxel first in case it all goes wrong 

[j0hn]

I have read this.
"VLAN ID = 101 is needed on all routers running on Fibre on all ISPs"

Here
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Broadband-home-phone/Using-own-Router-VLAN-Support/td-p/899258

Any time ANYONE on the Openreach network contacts Google for support they reply with "you have a VLAN, the Nest doesn't support a VLAN".
Google have been using it for years now as a cop out to not provide support.

As you have already seen the VLAN is added to the modem. There is no VLAN on the router on any Openreach service.

Now that you have it running if you have ANY issues and contact Google they will give you the "we can detect your are using a VLAN" nonsense and your support from them will stop at that point.

[TylerDurden]

Why would such an expensive router only have 2 ethernet ports?

It only has 1, and one WAN port. 😂

[Alex Atkin UK]

Why would such an expensive router only have 2 ethernet ports?

Because its all about WiFi and that annoys me no end as it causes end users to not even realise that cables are both an option and indeed a better option where possible.

Now that you have it running if you have ANY issues and contact Google they will give you the "we can detect your are using a VLAN" nonsense and your support from them will stop at that point.

Which of course is BS, the whole point of a VLAN is you CAN'T detect it once its been bridged/untagged back at the other end.  I doubt there are any broadband connections that doesn't use VLANs somewhere upstream.

Netflix and Amazon only wish it was that easy to detect tunneling protocols, it would have out of region watching impossible over a VPN if they could actually detect the VPN rather than instead having to constantly update their IP blacklist against VPN providers.

[burakkucat]

. . . Only then, connect LAN4 of the Zyxel to the WAN port of a fully reset and unplugged Google Nest Router. . . .

Success, at last! 

Just wondering why it was suggested that you use the LAN4 port of the ZyXEL device. Perhaps it has mystical properties. 

[TylerDurden]

Success, at last! 

Just wondering why it was suggested that you use the LAN4 port of the ZyXEL device. Perhaps it has mystical properties. 

Any port may work but this is the one I used and I haven't checked any others so I specified the port I know works.

[burakkucat]

Any port may work but this is the one I used and I haven't checked any others so I specified the port I know works.

Ah, I see. Thank you.