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[DEADLY-TDG-]

So is Be BB any good, and gaming wise too?

Hows the latency, packet loss etc?

Can i get interleaving turned off?

Whats the other benefits?


Thanks in advance 

[jabns]

Can you post your current line stats so I can give you detailed information.

Also what city/town do you live in.

** The main site has details of how to get them if you don't know 

[Floydoid]

There's another thread on this topic which might be worth your reading:

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=1740.0

[DEADLY-TDG-]

NetGear DG834:

Router Status:

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Connection Speed

Downstream: 6816kbps
Upstream: 448kbps

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Line Attenuation

Downstream: 44db
Upstream: 12.5db

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Noise Margin

Downstream: 12db
Upstream: 26db

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AR7 DSL Modem Statistics:
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[DSL Modem Stats]
        US Connection Rate:     448     DS Connection Rate:     6816
        DS Line Attenuation:    44      DS Margin:              12
        US Line Attenuation:    25      US Margin:              26
        US Payload :            1929984 DS Payload:             12142608
        US Superframe Cnt :     71587   DS Superframe Cnt:      71587
        US Transmit Power :     0       DS Transmit Power:      0
        LOS errors:             0       SEF errors:             0
        Errored Seconds:        0       Severely Err Secs:      0
        Frame mode:             3       Max Frame mode:         0
        Trained Path:           0       US Peak Cell Rate:      1056
        Trained Mode:           3       Selected Mode:          1
        ATUC Vendor Code:       54535443        ATUC Revision:  2
        Hybrid Selected:        3       Trellis:                1
        Showtime Count:         1       DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 6816 kbps
        BitSwap:                1       US Max Attainable Bit Rate:     n/a
        Annex:                  AnxA    psd_mask_qualifier: 0x0000
        Power Management Status: L0     DS HLINSC: 0
        US ACTPSD:              -345    DS ACTPSD: -362
        Total init. errors:     0       Total init. timeouts: 0
        Showtime init. errors:  0       Showtime init. timeouts: 0
        Last showtime init. errors: 0   Last showtime init. timeouts: 0
        ATUC ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
        T1413Vid: 00 00         T1413Rev: 00            VendorRev: 00
        ATUR ghsVid:  b5 00 54 53 54 43 00 00
        T1413Vid: 00 00 T1413Rev: 00    VendorRev: 00

        [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    1
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
        CRC:    0       FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

        [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
        CRC:    12      FEC:    0       NCD:    0
        LCD:    0       HEC:    0

[ATM Stats]
        [Upstream/TX]
        Good Cell Cnt:  40208
        Idle Cell Cnt:  1245656

        Tx Packets Dropped Count:       0
        Tx Bad Packets Count:   0

        [Downstream/RX)]
        Good Cell Cnt:  252971
        Idle Cell Cnt:  19310502
        Bad Hec Cell Cnt:       15
        Overflow Dropped Cell Cnt:      0
        Rx Packets Dropped Count:       0
        Rx Bad Packets Count:   0


[SAR AAL5 Stats]
        Tx PDU's:       10283
        Rx PDU's:       9878
        Tx Total Bytes: 1418501
        Rx Total Bytes: 11802517
        Tx Total Error Counts:  0
        Rx Total Error Counts:  0


[OAM Stats]
        Near End F5 Loop Back Count:    0
        Near End F4 Loop Back Count:    0
        Far End F5 Loop Back Count:     0
        Far End F4 Loop Back Count:     0
        SAR OAM Ping Response Drop Count=0
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Exchange Information:


Exchange: Honley.     BT Code: MYHON
Location: Station Rd,    HD9 6LL.
   ADSL enabled :    August 11, 2004
   dsl Max enabled:    March 31, 2006
   SDSL enabled :    Not Enabled
   21CN due :    no info
Distance:-    Direct:          1.63 km
          (appx)*    By Road:    2.9 km

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BT Line Speed Estimation:

Fixed ADSL:      2048 kbps      (2 Mb)
adsl button    DSL Max :      4500 kbps    (4.5 Mb)


I managed to pull my ethernet cable up through the holes and connect it into the back of my computer, so it's a direct connection into my Router now.




EDIT: Btw I Live In Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.

[jabns]

You would only be looking at about the 8000 mark so I would only go with the 8Mb package but you most likely would see a performance increase yes.

The thing with Be* is that you get unlimited usage(I still don't think anyone has been hit by there FUP and I have used well over 400G in one month). So if you download a lot I would not even hesitate. There are of course negatives as there are with all ISP's. I think rizla had some trouble with them IIRC so he will probably tell you some of the downsides that he experienced.

You also probably will not get the same level of support you do with smaller resellers.

[DEADLY-TDG-]

lol well i never reached 40Gig on Sky Connect, i think i had even less with NTL orginally and i never reached that...i maybe download/upload a small programs/files, ranging between 2-20mb.

I mainly game, and suprisingly it doesn't take up that much.

Support i don't mind aslong as the connection runs smooth. I'm pretty good with computers, i usually find my own way.

Is upload speed good for gaming? would it improve my gaming going from 448k to 1mb?? i know games don't use that much, but maybe i would see an improvement here, no?

[mr_chris]

Is upload speed good for gaming? would it improve my gaming going from 448k to 1mb?? i know games don't use that much, but maybe i would see an improvement here, no?

Wouldn't think that would make any difference, really, unless you're hosting your own game of course, or serving a map / mod or something from your PC (I don't play games online, so I wouldn't know what traffic usage is really like).

On the other hand, having more bandwidth is never going to harm the game's playability

If you know anyone else on your exchange with Be or O2 (same network) who also play games, might be worth asking them too about general performance.

[DEADLY-TDG-]

Sadly i don't know anyone that has the same exchange and is with Be.

One last question, can i request interleaving to be turned off with Be? and/or will it be already turned off when i goto them (I'm already on FastPath with Aquiss)

[jabns]

You can ask for fastpath.

[DEADLY-TDG-]

Ok Cool,

Thanks!

[jabns]

You can usually get a ADSL2+ connection to go about 2mbps faster with a few tweaks and wire sorting.

I won't be able to post a reply for a day or 2 because I am banning myself from the internet for 24 hours because its my 18th now(yep its after 12). Right I am off to Blackpool to get very drunk as the clubs are still open. 

[mr_chris]

Happy birthday James - hope your hangover isn't TOO bad!!

[jabns]

Thanks Chris. 

It was very bad. 

I bought me an all my friends a bottle of Zambooka towards the end of the night and I think that polished us off. 

[DEADLY-TDG-]

Thanks For The Input 


I switched to Be*, how can i tell if interleaving is "on" or "off" with this router?

Thomson Speedtouch TG585v7

Thanks =)

[kitz]

Not sure if its the same with the v7, but direct link should be:-

http://192.168.1.254/cgi/b/dsl/dt/?ce=1&be=0&l0=1&l1=0

If you have any FEC errors showing, then your line is interleaved.