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Author Topic: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”  (Read 3511 times)

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BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”

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In an interesting move Openreach (BT) has decided to slash the distance based cost of their troubled Fibre-to-the-Premise (FTTP) based Fibre-on-Demand (FoD / FTTPoD) product, albeit only for “slow speed areas” where their FTTC (VDSL2) technology fails to deliver above 10Mbps.

On paper FoD sounds like a good idea, but problems with complicated installations and high costs have hampered its appeal. At present most people are covered by Openreach’s up to 40-80Mbps Fibre-to-the-Cabinet (FTTC) technology and sadly only a few can access their native “ultrafast” 330Mbps FTTP network (around 330,000 UK premises).

The method behind FoD was essentially to give businesses (or rich home owners), specifically those already covered by FTTC, the ability to have their own FTTP service installed, albeit with the end-user being expected to stomach much of the installation / civil engineering cost involved (this is not the same as native FTTP where you only pay a small setup fee). Obviously this isn’t cheap.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2016, 01:26:47 PM »

Nice news from BT so long as the figures are not too high and it's actually available.

I wonder if this will be any good for weaver.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2016, 03:36:06 PM by Ronski »
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2016, 04:59:02 PM »

I was waiting for someone a make a news article about this.
https://www.openreach.co.uk//orpg/home/updates/briefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefings/super-fastfibreaccessbriefingsarticles/nga02916.do

I thought it was just a limited special offer. Up to ten customers.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 06:52:19 PM »

It is. Open to a max of 5 CP's and it's 10 orders each. pretty pointless exercise.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 06:05:34 AM »

Well that says it all doesn't it
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 10:28:25 AM »

Wouldn't be that surprised if they can't even manage that many, then they'll claim it's a lack of interest.

Reducing the monthly charge to something more appropriate, the same charge as the native FTTP for instance, would go far farther.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 12:14:59 PM »

 :P
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 01:28:11 PM »

Is this some sort of 'trial' or what?   Its hardly innovating with a restriction of 5 CPs and 10 EU's per CP.

TBH I wonder if the likes of Sky/TT are even going to be interested, after-all its not something that can be advertised to the consumer when such restrictions are in place. 
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 03:30:31 PM »

5 CPs and a maximum total of 10 end users, across all CPs.

It's a special offer, a bit like the first 100 customers that buy something from a new shop get some free gift. Except with fewer customers, and the shop isn't new.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 03:19:24 PM »

:P

Heh.

It's a ridiculous product. A cynical but clever attempt to shift some of the cost of building out FTTP onto subscribers both through the install charge and an insane rental cost.

I wouldn't blink at the install charge. The rental price is absurd and given the product doesn't have any SLAs really isn't worth it.

I priced up a 100Mb guaranteed + burst leased line to this property, it didn't get more expensive than the consumer grade bandwidth from FoD until month 32 of 36.

However moving next year so, meh, whatever.  :)
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 04:52:36 PM »

Madness. Words fail me.
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Re: BT Openreach Cuts Fibre-on-Demand FTTP Price for “Slow Speed Areas”
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2016, 12:01:38 PM »

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It's a special offer, a bit like the first 100 customers that buy something from a new shop get some free gift. Except with fewer customers, and the shop isn't new.

I did wonder, which is why I questioned if it was a trial to see if it generates more interest.
However, as mentioned I dont really see the likes of TT and Sky being interested.   Its not something they could or would advertise.
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