Seriously though, we know where things stand with G.INP and ECI DSLAMS at this moment in time, there's not much else to discuss on that particular point. Plus, like any debate .... other issues will get brought in that may not be directly related to the OP, but are indirectly related.
It would be an odd world if we just talked solely about one point, and one point only ...... but I do take your point. ![Smiley :)](https://forum.kitz.co.uk/Smileys/kitzemotes/smiley.gif)
Well with that I'm going to chuck my opinion into the mix, and I have to say that I agree with Stuart!
This comment annoyed me, but I held back from saying anything, as I'm not one to normally speak out.
I agree that the G.INP situation is frustrating ...... but with the greatest respect, what OR do or don't do is up to them ...... it's their product.
That is entirely the reason our telephone network is in such a mess, now I may be going off on a slightly different tangent here but I feel it's a valid one. I have been told several times in recent years by OR engineers that OR refuse to replace telephone lines, preferring to patch them only for them to require patching time and again. There are many pairs in bundles which are useless because they are so degraded, leaving no spares - I've been told this by an engineer! I've been told by OR engineers that our lines on the industrial estate where I work are in a very bad condition. The end result of this neglect is that millions of users are suffering a sub standard service! I live a mere 450 meters give or take from my cabinet, yet my connection performs far worse than it should, no doubt because of sub standard cabling. Why should we the end users be expected to put up with this attitude? If you used a taxi and it was falling apart you wouldn't use them again would you, you'd phone another as you have a choice.
A quick Google revealed this headline
BT blasted for £5bn 'unjustifiable' profit as we pay over the odds for broadband due to 'digital stranglehold', I expect they've made these sorts of profits year on year, and yes I know they are a business and have shareholders to answer to, but don't you think they could just spend a little bit extra to replace poor quality cabling. If they did this as they went along things wouldn't be as bad now where it's just to darn expensive to justify doing.
Could you imagine what would happen if National Rail didn't replace worn out railways, instead lowering the speed limit? What would happen if they said its our railway we can do what we want! There would be uproar and people would stop using the railways because most have a choice, millions have no choice to stop using BT's infrastructure do they?
OR only get away with this neglect because the majority of people don't understand, and of course they are a monopoly with the vast majority not having a choice.
Don't you think with the vast profits BT make they could afford to give a top class service, after all it's not all about profit is it?
I have been thinking about this thread and its contents over the last handful pawful of days. Ronski's recent comment has, thus, prompted me to ask a question --
Would it be considered worthwhile for me to go through all the posts in this thread and move all of them that are off-topic to this thread's subject into a separate thread (subject/title yet to be decided)? ![Undecided :-\](https://forum.kitz.co.uk/Smileys/kitzemotes/undecided.gif)
Only the recent posts, as hopefully one day someone will be back posting they've had G.INP enabled again and in the meantime there may be some news that's relevant to the thread.