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[NewtronStar]

Over the last week and a half there have been loads of KN vans and KN heavy lorrys doing something all over are village from exchange to my PCP cabinet have never seen so much activity before, i would see a BT Van at the PCP cab the odd time, but this is making me curious.

Has any member seen this happen in there area and what were they doing ?

 

[AArdvark]

Works outing maybe ?? 

BTW: Who is KN ?

[NewtronStar]

Works outing maybe ?? 

BTW: Who is KN ?

Is is Kellys Networking it has a small BT logo on those vans

[burakkucat]

Is is Kellys Networking it has a small BT logo on those vans

If they are anyway related to Kelly Communications (or even Ned Kelly) then I don't expect you to have a working telephone or broadband connection for much longer.   

. . . what were they doing ?

The simplest way is probably the best way -- just go and ask. 

[NewtronStar]

The simplest way is probably the best way -- just go and ask. 

It's says in big letters KN and small print working in partnership with BT Openreach.
I did ask in are local spar shop/petrol station as the KN vans had parked up there for lunch but they had no idea.

I'm just to shy/scared to walk upto a KN engineer and ask them what are you doing 

what ever they are doing the line does not like it

[burakkucat]

It's says in big letters KN and small print working in partnership with BT Openreach.

In all seriousness, it does appear as if they are part of the same organisation as Kelly Communications. 

what ever they are doing the line does not like it

That looks terrible.    I am wondering if it might be an idea to gracefully shutdown the circuit while they continue to faff about.    If the circuit is not operative then the DLM cannot make any decision upon statistical data which is not present.

[NewtronStar]

It's to late now the SNRM window has closed for this line it will be back at 20:00 the Kelly Comms had my PCP cabinet open and working on it yesterday at 13:30 when i drove past.

My Philosophy is if it's working leave it alone unless by working at it you make it even better this could end up as short blip but the stats (CRC's) is showing abnormal values on a G.INP line

[freelander]

Have you had a look on  http://roadworks.org to see if that comes up with any info

[NewtronStar]

Have you had a look on  http://roadworks.org to see if that comes up with any info

Nothing shows up and no signs of any KN vans to-day 

[kitz]

Not so sure that KN Network Services (KNNS) are anything to do with Kelly Communications.   Neither make any mention of the other when it comes to their subsidiaries or history. 

KN Network Services are registered in Dublin, Ireland, whilst all of the Kelly Group subsidiaries - ie Kelly Communications and Kelly Telecoms etc are registered in Middlesex UK.   KNNS is part of the KN Group and has a totally different logo to any of the Kelly Group

It would appear that KNNS has recently won some large contracts from Openreach for laying of optical fibre and appear to more specialise in laying the fibre and hardware/ cab type installation  - ie the physical network.... compared to the 'broadband installation' that Kelly Comms does.
 

[burakkucat]

Not so sure that KN Network Services (KNNS) are anything to do with Kelly Communications.   Neither make any mention of the other when it comes to their subsidiaries or history.

Ah, ha. Your more, in-depth, research shows that N*Star may have less of a worry. 

[AArdvark]

If it is NOT Kelly anyone is a positive movement. 

[kitz]

PS.

Just found this which explains what it most likely is.  - They do all the cable laying and maintenance (both copper & fibre) & core duct installations in Ireland for BT... and have done since 2004.  They also cover NI.  Knowing where NS lives, then it makes sense that KNNS would be the people working on cabs in his area. 

BT Term Contract. Client: BT Ireland
Duration: June 2004 – present (ongoing)

KN Network Services provide professional network installations and maintenance services on both copper and fibre networks. These range from managing customer service provision and repair work, to large network renewal and investment schemes, whilst keeping the existing infrastructure working to its optimal performance.

So they will have most likely been doing a repair, or adding new fibre.

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Ah, ha. Your more, in-depth, research shows that N*Star may have less of a worry. 

Yep.  Im now convinced they are two entirely separate companies.   
KN Group has no mention of 'Kelly' on its site other than the surname of their CEO.  The surname Kelly is quite common in Ireland aside from the fact that he appears to have been made CEO long after the company formed, so I think 'Kelly' is a red-herring when it comes to KNNS.

[NewtronStar]

Thankyou very much Kitz for the information in relation to KN it's the first time i have seen these vans working at the PCP cabinet and further down the road to small local exchange though it's not the exchange that supplies are cabinets with FTTC that comes from NIBA.

The only thing i can think of there is a new build site with five house's and they needed to lay new pairs underground from PCP cab to new houses and that's about halfway down to local exchange, but the big KN lorry had what looked like black old mangled tubes 3 inches in diameter.

[burakkucat]

Yep.  Im now convinced they are two entirely separate companies.   
KN Group has no mention of 'Kelly' on its site other than the surname of their CEO.  The surname Kelly is quite common in Ireland aside from the fact that he appears to have been made CEO long after the company formed, so I think 'Kelly' is a red-herring when it comes to KNNS.

Having spent a few more moments looking, I agree entirely . . . two separate organisations. 

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Thinking about the surname "Kelly", I had a sudden memory of a television comedy from around the late 1960s. The title was "Never Mind the Quality, Feel the Width". It involved the daily antics of a pair of tailors (in a partnership), based in the East End of London. They traded under their combined surnames: "Cohen and Kelly". Manny Cohen was a Jew and Patrick Kelly was an Irish Roman Catholic.
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