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Author Topic: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison  (Read 100529 times)

lockeh

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #195 on: April 02, 2015, 11:19:28 AM »

My latest billion stats:

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adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 35881 Kbps, Downstream rate = 105573 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79999 Kbps
Bearer: 1, Upstream rate = 0 Kbps, Downstream rate = 0 Kbps
Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        12.3            16.3
Attn(dB):        11.3            0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5           -1.3

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           -6              -6
B:              130             97
M:              1               1
T:              0               0
R:              8               8
S:              0.0518          0.1554
L:              21468           5457
D:              16              8
I:              139             106
N:              139             106
Q:              16              8
V:              14              2
RxQueue:                57              39
TxQueue:                19              13
G.INP Framing:          18              18
G.INP lookback:         19              13
RRC bits:               24              24
                        Bearer 1
MSGc:           186             58
B:              0               0
M:              2               2
T:              2               2
R:              16              16
S:              5.3333          16.0000
L:              48              16
D:              3               1
I:              32              32
N:              32              32
Q:              0               0
V:              0               0
RxQueue:                0               0
TxQueue:                0               0
G.INP Framing:          0               0
G.INP lookback:         0               0
RRC bits:               0               0

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            0               0
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             2716152320              3038525
RSCorr:         96522           35037
RSUnCorr:       0               0
                        Bearer 1
OHF:            23054942                80053
OHFErr:         0               0
RS:             276659300               2400587
RSCorr:         57              140
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Retransmit Counters
rtx_tx:         1700            824
rtx_c:          1693            791
rtx_uc:         0               0

                        G.INP Counters
LEFTRS:         40              10
minEFTR:        79999           19991
errFreeBits:    451844219               114854581

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    1137280766              0
Data Cells:     595978910               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

                        Bearer 1
HEC:            0               0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    0               0
Data Cells:     0               0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
AS:             370380

                        Bearer 0
INP:            46.00           47.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            0.00            0.00
OR:             0.01            0.01
AgR:            80614.82        20102.08

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            4.00
INPRein:        4.00            4.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06
OR:             95.62           31.87
AgR:            95.62   31.87

Bitswap:        594/594         1046/1046

Total time = 4 days 6 hours 53 min 0 sec
FEC:            96522           35037
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 8 min 0 sec
FEC:            16              23
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            297             295
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 6 hours 53 min 0 sec
FEC:            7587            1748
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            50973           12702
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 4 days 6 hours 52 min 59 sec
FEC:            96522           35037
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            4.00
INPRein:        4.00            4.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06
OR:             95.62           31.87
AgR:            95.62   31.87

Bear 1 (G.INP) side of things has put an extra 3ms on your line and it's done the exact same thing to my short error free line too..
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #196 on: April 02, 2015, 11:24:01 AM »

                        Bearer 1
INP:            4.00            4.00
INPRein:        4.00            4.00
delay:          3               0
PER:            16.06           16.06
OR:             95.62           31.87
AgR:            95.62   31.87

Bear 1 (G.INP) side of things has put an extra 3ms on your line and it's done the exact same thing to my short error free line too..

Wish DLM put delay: 0 0 (not 3 0)  >:(
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Dray

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #197 on: April 02, 2015, 11:29:50 AM »

Bearer 0 has no delay. Bearer 1 is used by G.Inp
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lockeh

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #198 on: April 02, 2015, 11:33:13 AM »

Yep G.INP has added delay of 3ms to your line for NO REASON AT ALL, yet I have seen long noisy lines with ZERO delay.

G.INP is NOT working well at all for short lines.

My short line stats are identical to yours and G.INP has added 3ms to my ping too..
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #199 on: April 02, 2015, 11:35:38 AM »

Yeah I blamed Openreach for unfit for purpose for FTTC G.INP delay of 3ms on ping! No need for that for my short line! God, I hate BT sometime!
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dnpark38

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #200 on: April 02, 2015, 11:41:14 AM »

"I hate BT sometime!"
Only sometimes, that's an improvement on most people who hate BT all the time :-)
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lockeh

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #201 on: April 02, 2015, 11:42:33 AM »

Whats more shocking is how CRAP the ECI modem is with G.INP enabled!

my line has been perfect for the last 3 years with FULL SYNC and fastpath.

Since this G.INP has been forced upon my line it's been much slower and higher latency
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sorc

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #202 on: April 02, 2015, 11:43:00 AM »

I have to say that I would find it rather hard to get worked up over a 3ms increase. In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. Approaching 10ms increase, maybe it's worth caring about

That said, I seem to have got the best of both worlds, 6Mb increase and maybe 1 or 2ms decrease..
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #203 on: April 02, 2015, 12:07:49 PM »

Updated: Have BT starting to love me now?

Interesting BQM graph showing reduced in ping just after 11am this morning. (I notice between 12:30pm yesterday and before 11am today the ping was higher by 3ms extra. Graph below:

Speed test also reduced from 12ms to 9ms


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boost

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #204 on: April 02, 2015, 12:26:28 PM »

Can you ping and trace route bbc.co.uk? :)
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lockeh

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #205 on: April 02, 2015, 12:30:07 PM »

Updated: Have BT starting to love me now?

Interesting BQM graph showing reduced in ping just after 11am this morning. (I notice between 12:30pm yesterday and before 11am today the ping was higher by 3ms extra. Graph below:

Speed test also reduced from 12ms to 9ms


What does your stats show now on bearer 1?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2015, 12:33:46 PM by lockeh »
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dnpark38

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #206 on: April 02, 2015, 12:31:14 PM »

adslmax
Does the higher speed product lower the ping over mine?
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adslmax

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #207 on: April 02, 2015, 12:35:39 PM »

@lockeh my stats bearer 1 now showing 0 0

@boost my bbc co uk ping now 9ms
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boost

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #208 on: April 02, 2015, 12:38:10 PM »

@lockeh my stats bearer 1 now showing 0 0

@boost my bbc co uk ping now 9ms

What's the lowest ping you see in the tracert? First/second hop etc? :)
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lockeh

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Re: G.INP enabled Stats Comparison
« Reply #209 on: April 02, 2015, 12:40:32 PM »

@lockeh my stats bearer 1 now showing 0 0

@boost my bbc co uk ping now 9ms

Level of INP do you have on bearer 1 now? My guess is 2.00
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