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[jid]

Hi Guys,

I am finally getting round to rewiring the old extension cabling.

The carpets have been taken up in the hallway downstairs so I can finally take a look at the wiring - and theres a carpet gripper right through it and a gash out of the cable in another part.

I am therefore going to replace this with new cable.

I have looked in the Master Socket as I needed to remove an extension no longer in use, and noticed the "clamps" that hold the wire in place are becoming increasingly difficult to get the grip onto the wires using the krone tool.

Who do I need to contact to get an NTE5 fitted? Is it BT or Tiscali (line rental provider) who I will need to contact?

Cheers

Jamie

[BritBrat]

So long as you have enough wire length I would just do it myself.

[jeffbb]

Hi

quote  From Britbrat : So long as you have enough wire length I would just do it myself.  only is adding to existing master ,not replacing it .

quote You are NOT allowed to replace any old style master sockets with an NTE5 socket yourself,

Read more: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/socket.htm#ixzz0pRNRlApD

Regards Jeff

[BritBrat]

I know you are not allowed but I would do it.

I would get a BT NTE box though first, ask a local BT  engineer for one and give him a drink or even ask if he could fit it when off duty.

I would only go through BT if I had a line fault.

[silversurfer44]

Just hope no-one rings your number whilst you have your fingers in the bare wires. It's not lethal but you might hit something with the shock.

[BritBrat]

I think I have had bigger shocks than that would give

Try holding a spark plug lead while turning engine over, now that is a hair raiser.

Or charge up a capacitor and touch it.

[jid]

Should I contact my provider and ask how much they charge?

The idea of doing it myself sounds dodgy as I know its against BTs terms to do it yourself?

Also, where exactly am I going to find a BT engineer? I don't know anyone who is one?

[BritBrat]

The trouble is it may cost you a lot of money.

And after you have phoned up to ask I would not install one myself then.

It is only two wires and so long as you note where they go (TAKE A PICTURE/MARK THEM) it is easy, just do not touch them together and it will be fine.

The other way is just to run off the BT box to your own NTE and from that to extensions, that is allowed and legal.

[jid]

Hi BritBrat,

The problem I have is getting hold of an NTE5 with the Openreach branding. I know you can get hold of the Unbranded NTE5s all over the place but if I then had to have BT out to fix a fault, how would I explain the unbranded NTE5? They're bound to notice...

I had an engineer out a year ago for a fault and asked him to fit a new NTE5 and he said no it isn't need !!!! The IDC terminals are knackered and come loose often!

[BritBrat]

They do have them on Ebay sometimes but last time I looked I could not find any.

This may be one but I would ask the seller first to make sure.

[jid]

Did you mean by doing this?
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm

That seems like a possible viable option and would aid in diagnostics...

[silversurfer44]

I've done all 3 Britbrat. As well as mains shocks. I do have curly hair mind.  

@jid: if you are not confident then don't do it yourself. If you have one of those little plastic things on the wall well they did get a bit damp inside sometimes. Unfortunately it is a chargeable job these days so you would be in the hands of the OR engineer. If he had a spare on in the back of his van he may just fit it, especially if a pot tea and a bacon butty were on hand.  

[jid]

I've done all 3 Britbrat. As well as mains shocks. I do have curly hair mind. 

@jid: if you are not confident then don't do it yourself. If you have one of those little plastic things on the wall well they did get a bit damp inside sometimes. Unfortunately it is a chargeable job these days so you would be in the hands of the OR engineer. If he had a spare on in the back of his van he may just fit it, especially if a pot tea and a bacon butty were on hand. 

I'd be ok to fit an NTE5 as a side socket, I could live with that, as of course I am not tampering with BTs precious down wires.

What's your view on connecting an NTE5 to the existing old Master?

[BritBrat]

Did you mean by doing this?
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm

That seems like a possible viable option and would aid in diagnostics...

Yes that is what I meant.

But if you use a master socket you would have to cut out the components to make it a extension socket.

[Lou]

Should I contact my provider and ask how much they charge?

The idea of doing it myself sounds dodgy as I know its against BTs terms to do it yourself?

Also, where exactly am I going to find a BT engineer? I don't know anyone who is one?

I think the charge is about £199.00 inc. vat which is a bit steep. The other thing to bear in mind is that if the router is not currently by the master socket you will need to run a separate extension wire to the router as the new socket does not transmit the dsl signal via the phone extension jack or terminals.

Lou