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[roseway]

I'm not aware of any mainstream Linux distro which doesn't include a browser in its default setup. Setting up a router from Linux is trivially easy, using the web interface.

[tonyappuk]

Thanks for that Roseway. I was sure it must be straightforward and in which case I would think a script could do it in windows 7 without needing a browser as such.
Tony

[stevie]

I suspect this will get down to legal semantics.

Yes IE won`t be installed as supplied, but the actual install .exe will be on the desktop or in the initial setup.

So given that most people don`t have much idea of what to do they`ll follow the nice instructions on how to install a browser that M$ have kindly included, but not installed so giving people a choice..."Click Here!!!"

I can see this not actually achieving much in any way.

Personally, I believe all PCs should come without any O/S & during purchase they should be allowed to chose what they want & have the shop install it for them or for those technically capable let them install it, for most Linux would be enough. I wonder how many will select Linux..Its free...Windows it`ll cost you £`s

[BritBrat]

IE is integrated into the Operating system and as I see it on the EURO version it will not be installed but I guess there will be an option to install it when installing the operating system

And what will most people do?

Click yes or select it.

I also hate IE 7/8 and am still using IE6.

EDIT:

OT: I have read good reviews about windows 7.

[sevenlayermuddle]

Yes IE won`t be installed as supplied, but the actual install .exe will be on the desktop or in the initial setup.

The bbc article quoted at the start of the thread states it'll need to be 'downloaded'.   I think we've established that would be sub-optimal, but all this has it's origins in the European Commision so nothing would surprise me. 

One day, I suppose, EU cars will be shipped without steering wheels since it's anti-competitive for the manufacturers of aftermarket steering wheels.

[stevie]

One day, I suppose, EU cars will be shipped without steering wheels since it's anti-competitive for the manufacturers of aftermarket steering wheels.

Hopefully they won`t look at wheels or tyres...

[UncleUB]

At last,common sense prevails................

Microsoft has made a new proposal to European competition regulators that it hopes will end their row over the firm's Internet Explorer web browser.

It proposes that European buyers of its new Windows 7 operating system will be offered a list of potential browsers when they first install the software.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8168235.stm

[stevie]

Its a better solution than the original one...

But most people will go for IE, because they don`t know better....

[jid]

Thats at last a good idea 

However as stevie said most people would go for IE...

[kitz]

>> I wonder how Linux manages at the moment.

Linux all include a mozilla based browser.
MAC will include Safari


Once upon a time when Windows was shipped without a browser, you either got another floppy with a browser exe from somewhere.
... or what normally happened was that ISPs used to send out CD's or floppies which included such things as a web-browser (usually netscape) and email client.

To ship an operating system without a browser these days is stupid.


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PS..  who remembers the later days when certain ISP set up used to include branded browers "IE provided by lineone", "IE  by wanadoo"  etc.

[HPsauce]

BT still "brand" your browser if you install the support software for their routers. 

[kitz]

>>> BT still "brand" your browser if you install the support software for their routers.

I hate that when they rebrand an already installed browser 

[jid]

BT still "brand" your browser if you install the support software for their routers. 

Tiscali did this as well in the old days of the USB modem...!

Very annoying and a pain to remove all branding.

[robinsteele]

I would like to thank Microsoft for letting me get the use of Windows 7RC until it is supposed to switch off or be time limited.I do think your prices are a bit excessive,as windows 7 looks like a glorified vista.Mind you,the biggest rip-off are your office suite bundles.Im thinking your 7RC is to get people like myself off of XP and get addicted to windows 7 and pay £200,not likely

[BritBrat]

Two words, OEM BIOS.