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mr_chris

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Re: Windows7
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2008, 07:19:43 PM »

Floydy... I can see what you're saying, but the Windows development history can't be really summed up in that way, the NT-based OS series was pretty much a separate product that was developed more in parallel with the home versions of Windows (3.1, 95, 98 etc).

Windows 2000 (released Christmas '99), was MEANT to be Microsoft's grand attempt at converging the NT and consumer versions of Windows together into one operating system that could be used in the home and the corporate environment.

Unfortunately this didn't quite work out as planned, as too many applications were incompatible with the NT kernel and relied on quirks in Windows 98 to allow them to run, so Windows ME was quickly released as a 'stop-gap'. It incorporated some features from Windows 2000 (notably the networking stack, and the new shell/colour scheme), but was still based very much on Windows 98.

Purely speculation here, but I wouldn't be surprised if Windows ME was never really on Microsoft's development roadmap until they realised that Windows 2000 wasn't going to be this "one size fits all" system that it was meant to be. XP finally managed to do this, probably because application vendors had been working hard to get their apps compatible with Windows 2000, so by the time XP came out, the world was a bit more ready for it.

Windows 7 will likely be to Vista what XP was to Windows 2000... another few years and we will all have better PCs that will be capable of running Vista, and application vendors will have sorted out the majority of Vista issues, so Windows 7 won't seem like such a monster and the world will probably embrace it a lot better than they did with Vista!

1990-93: Windows 3 (3.0, 3.1, 3.11)
1995: Windows 95
1998: Windows 98
2000: Windows ME

The NT product line was something like this (ignoring NT 3.1 and 3.5 which were released sometime before Windows 95)
1996: Windows NT 4
1999: Windows 2000 (NT5)
2001: Windows XP (5.1)
2007: Windows Vista (6)

So who knows when Windows 7 will be released. They are currently saying it'll be ready for Christmas 2009... other reports I've heard state mid-2009, and mid-2010. I think they're keeping their options open by confusing everyone on the internet with different release dates!!

I would certainly be expecting a release long before 2012-13 though.
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2008, 07:25:49 PM »

I understand what you're saying Chris, I was just trying to make the distinction between the major series - it just seemed to me that 95/98/98SE/ME had a messy nomenclature, whereas they were all actually incremental developments of windows 4 (i.e. 95).  I'm glad with windows XP (5) they opted for the release of service packs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_versions

I think I'm waffling.
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2008, 07:26:34 PM »

I'm not saying anything :-X
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2008, 07:27:44 PM »

They opted for the release of Service Packs because they had been doing this since 1994 with Windows NT, anyway!

NT 3.5 (or 3.51, can't remember)$ had 5 service packs
NT 4 had 6 service packs (plus a service pack 6a and then a post-SP6a rollup of security fixes!)

So it's obvious that 2000, XP etc have rolled off the back of the NT product line, rather than the 95/98 line, I guess that's what I was trying to put across :)
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2008, 07:29:30 PM »

I'm not saying anything :-X


OK then Eric, can you explain the Linux development timeline (and keep it simple).
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2008, 07:30:59 PM »

So it's obvious that 2000, XP etc have rolled off the back of the NT product line, rather than the 95/98 line,

Yeah, to finally get rid of that DOS subsystem I guess they had to model it on the NT chassis.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2008, 07:36:06 PM »

OK then Eric, can you explain the Linux development timeline (and keep it simple).

Of course I can. Three new distros are released every week. :lol:
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2008, 07:45:10 PM »

That's not quite what I meant Eric, and you know it.
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2008, 08:06:08 PM »

I think another key point, that sort of started with Windows 2000, was to properly separate and desynchronise the server products.
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2008, 08:22:14 PM »

I thought Linux was the only decent software to run a server on?
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2008, 08:25:20 PM »

Linux servers are really not relevant to this thread though. ;)
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2008, 09:23:34 PM »


2007 Windows Vista

it would seem that 5-6 years is the norm between major releases, hence 7 should be expected, around 2012-13.

2009 Windows 7

So would this mean Windows is likely to be held back for a further 3/5 years :lol:

Oops just spotted last last half of the sentence. :-[
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2008, 09:22:39 AM »

Well I must be the exception to the rule because I used Windows ME for 7 years without any major problems and I am now using Vista without any problems.  :)
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2008, 12:39:06 PM »

Being a newby, I started with XP and will probably finish with XP.       
That makes things a lot simpler  :D
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Re: Windows7
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2008, 02:49:04 PM »

I started with MS-DOS 3.3, then windows 3.1, 95, 98SE, XP.
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