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jabns

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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2008, 02:05:49 PM »

This makes me so mad  >:( .

1) Imagine the storage capacity that would need. There's a few £billion gone.
2) It will be a waste of money because they will just find new ways to transmit data. One way i have thought of is removing or changing the color of a pixel in a picture and then compare it to the original(binary). I wonder if that been TM'd  :lol:
3) Its morally wrong

I can imagine Gordan been on the bbc saying: "erm, erm we misplaced the datacenter sorry"
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2008, 02:09:03 PM »

Cracks me up really.  Like you say can you imagine the storage space - I dont think anyones thought that through.

Aside from the point that anything really juicy is going to be encrypted anyhow  ???
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2008, 02:22:10 PM »

sorry officer i have forgot my encryption keys....
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2008, 02:30:17 AM »

2) It will be a waste of money because they will just find new ways to transmit data. One way i have thought of is removing or changing the color of a pixel in a picture and then compare it to the original(binary). I wonder if that been TM'd  :lol:

Probably. Its called steganography and has been around for thousands of years.

http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1684 is a reasonable read and has an example of a jpeg with embedded text.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2008, 02:34:09 AM »

sorry officer i have forgot my encryption keys....

Then you go to jail.

Two years if they decide you're not a terrorist, five years if they think you are. Do remember that when your sentence is up then they can start the procedure all over again and bang you up for another two/five years stretch. RIPA part 3......
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2008, 02:14:00 PM »

Cheers for that link rizla. Me and a friend were thinking about ways you could hide data the other night and i thought I would be a millionaire with that one :lol:

>>Then you go to jail.

Yeh I would probably just let them see my college work then.  :lol:
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2008, 08:17:14 PM »

Cheers for that link rizla. Me and a friend were thinking about ways you could hide data the other night and i thought I would be a millionaire with that one :lol:

Sounds much like me in around 1994 or so :)

Steganography is a waste of time really as hiding large quantities of digital data isn't as simple as first meets the eye. Where are you going to hide 200MB of data (for example) ? Its going to have to be somewhere like an archive (rar/zip/pak/whatever) or a movie or a database. Not easy and even if you wrote a little program to utilise the file slack or alternate data streams and spread the data around it can be fairly trivial (pass the files though a hash function for example) to identify files of interest.

Steganography sounds like a great idea but it is pretty much useless for anything other than the smallest quantities of data.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2008, 07:48:37 PM »

>>Sounds much like me in around 1994 or so

Lol

>>Steganography is a waste of time

Yeah been reading about it today and can see that its not that useful.
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2008, 09:41:00 PM »

Makes me think about all those free CD's you get through the letter box. I wonder if I actualy looked at any of them might I find a list of bank details or a listing of everyone who;s claming child credit  :lol:

As this came up on the radio4 news quiz with "and all this infomation is to be stored on a disk at an unknown location, unknown to whom that is" :lol:
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2008, 03:01:18 AM »

And if that's not enough, how about this:-

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Details of a £50m scheme to provide police forces with 10,000 hand-held computers have been unveiled.
Some 27 forces in England and Scotland will benefit from the devices, which Gordon Brown last year said would cut paperwork by 99 minutes per shift.
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Uses for the computers will include confirming identity, on-the-spot forms such as stop and search, and scanning fingerprints.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7419676.stm
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2008, 07:41:12 AM »

That's just great O F.....can't think of a reason why they shouldn't have them... they won't of course get stolen or fall into the wrong hands will they?  They won't be lost by the users or used for things other than what they're meant for..... really good idea this isn't it, after all peeps in authority here are brill at keeping all our data secret and not losing stuff......

Jeez, whatever next...... beam me up Scotty.... is there anything they won't stoop to?

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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2008, 08:38:23 AM »

Jeez, whatever next...... beam me up Scotty.... is there anything they won't stoop to?

Wasn't something like that said during the Jeremy Thorpe scandal case?
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2008, 10:20:24 AM »

beam me up Scotty...



did somebody call  ?        ;D
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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2008, 10:31:32 AM »

Yeah,me

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Re: Phone calls & Email database considered
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2008, 10:45:38 AM »

Can I come too?


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