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BT NTE5 Master Socket to NTE 5C /VDSL mk 4 socket and extension
mpstevens:
Hi Guys,
My BT NTE5 Master Socket is in the hallway and i was going to replace it with a BT77A junction box and then run CW1724 cable (blue/blue white) from the junction box to my new NTE 5C /VDSL mk 4 socket (A+B).
Then from the extension (2,3,5) port on NTE 5C i was going to run an extension to a BT 2/3 extension socket into another room.
However not wanting to break the law !! I will go down the route of adding a new VDSL/ADSL faceplate to the old BT NTE5.
My query at this point is if i buy a new VDSL/ADSL faceplate for the old BT NTE5 Master Socket i understand if correct i can use A+B on this to go to A+B on the new NTE 5C/VDSL mk 4 socket (for both main phone and broadband) but if i want to also take my extension (just for second phone) from the old BT NTE5 is this possible or would i need to take the extension off the new NTE5C/ VDSL mk 4 extension port?
If i can take the extension from the old BT NTE 5C socket with the added VDSL/ADSL faceplate please can anyone advise which terminals should i use for the Blue/Blue White & Orange to go to the extension socket as A&B will already be taken up?
I know you’re probably thinking just get wireless phones off the new NTE5C/VDSL MK4 but i do like the current phones i have.
Or possibly there is an altogether different solution?
Many Thanks for any help.
Mike
tubaman:
Most filtered faceplates have both "AB"(unfiltered) and "235" (filtered) connections on the back, so you will be able to take both from it.
Check before you buy as there are some around that only have the "235" connections.
However, doing it as you propose will leave you with two master sockets which is not ideal at all.
I would use a secondary socket on the end of the "AB" connections and add a decent dangly filter for broadband/phone.
This is still not perfect as you have two filters but I doubt it'll make a noticeable difference.
If you don't mind "breaking the law" a little then replace your current NTE5 with the new NTE5C that you have (seems a shame to waste it ::)) and then proceed as above.
The optimal solution would be moving the NTE5C to where you want it, but that "breaks the law" a bit more.
:)
mpstevens:
--- Quote from: tubaman on March 02, 2018, 04:18:05 PM ---Most filtered faceplates have both "AB"(unfiltered) and "235" (filtered) connections on the back, so you will be able to take both from it.
Check before you buy as there are some around that only have the "235" connections.
However, doing it as you propose will leave you with two master sockets which is not ideal at all.
I would use a secondary socket on the end of the "AB" connections and add a decent dangly filter for broadband/phone.
This is still not perfect as you have two filters but I doubt it'll make a noticeable difference.
If you don't mind "breaking the law" a little then replace your current NTE5 with the new NTE5C that you have (seems a shame to waste it ::)) and then proceed as above.
The optimal solution would be moving the NTE5C to where you want it, but that "breaks the law" a bit more.
:)
--- End quote ---
Thanks for your reply Tubaman.
My original plan was to do away with the old BT Master Socket as it is in the wrong place therefore i was going to put a junction box where the old BT master socket is and then run new cable (Blue/White & White/Blue) from the junction box to the new NTE 5C /VDSL mk 4 socket to terminals A+B.
Then the plan was to run an extension from this new socket (i.e terminals 2 =blue/white ,3 = orange/white) & 5 = white/blue) to a BT 2/3 extension socket into another room.
However as i don’t want to run the risk of the wrath from BT instead of using the junction box i am now thinking of using the old BT master socket as my junction instead.
My ultimate goal is to have my router and main phone connected to my new NTE 5C /VDSL mk 4 socket in a different place to where the existing old BT master socket lives and then an additional phone only in another room.
However where i want to put this additional phone is actually closer to the Old BT Master Socket so my question is can i connect to the pins 2,3 & 5 for my extension if i buy a new ADSL face plate for the Old BT Master Socket and still connect to A + B which will be going to my new NTE 5C /VDSL mk 4 socket?
Do i actually need to connect the Orange/White wire to terminal 3 of the new ADSL face plate for my extension to the additional phone? I assume i do as this is the bell wire.
Also do i actually need to buy a new ADSL face plate for my old BT socket or can i connect to the existing face plate terminals?
Sorry and thank you for your help.
tubaman:
The ideal solution is to end up with one, and only one, filtered outlet which you connect your modem to, and run extensions from.
Your current master is in the wrong place, but by keeping your existing NTE5 and adding a NTE5C you will end up with two master sockets, and that should be avoided.
The only easy way to do what you want legally will involve two filters - one filtered faceplate on the NTE5 and another, likely of the dangly kind, where the modem is sited.
I would do it so:
1. Purchase a filtered faceplate for your NTE5, making sure it has both "AB" and "235"(might be "2345") connections on it.
2. Run a secondary socket from "AB" on the filtered faceplate to where you want your modem.
3. Run another secondary socket from "235" (yes, use "3") on the filtered faceplate to where you want your extension phone.
4. At the modem socket use a decent dangly filter (if BT supplied one with your modem it should be a decent one) to connect your modem and other extension phone.
All of the above wiring should be at least CW1308 (twisted pair) standard. The CW1724 you mentioned is fine.
Note that this does not use your NTE5C at all to avoid the double master situation.
Other members may suggest other routes to doing this.
:)
licquorice:
The filtered faceplate will have 3 sets of terminals, incoming A&B unfiltered data extension terminals and filtered ext terminals 2,3 &5. So run secondary socket from data extension terminals rtaher than A&B.
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