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When will FTTPoD be available to residents.
Bowdon:
**Rant and Investigation**
I've been making a nuisance of myself in other places. But it gets crowded over there and instead of leaping on other peoples threads I thought I might open a thread here about it.
Having been reading the threads in another place by people getting FTTPoD products installed it seems I mistakenly thought they were residential customers who were paying some extra money to have it installed.
Two ISP's were mentioned offering FTTPoD products, Cerberus and FluidOne.
Someone had mentioned that to make an order the exchange had to be FTTP. This seems not to be the case, but I'd gone and looked at my local exchange and find its the only exchange of the 6 or 7 exchanges around here that doesn't have FTTP or FOD listed. So this annoyed me.
Someone else said they had pestered one of the ISP's and said that ISP got Openreach to open up FOD in the area. So I made a post about trying to buy, or at least get a quote for FOD. This is when I run in to the problem that it appears that the 2 ISP's, as of now, are only selling to business customers.
The interesting part is that some of the new price quotes for FOD arent that massive and I would see it as an investment. People buy big OLED TV's and high powered PC's that could easily come to a combine total of around what FOD on average seems to come to. So for a lot of people FOD is within their price range.
So I have been reading up on the information about FOD. I noticed that there is due to be price changes coming at the end of the month.
https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/updates/briefings/ultrafastfibreaccessbriefings/ultrafastfibreaccessbriefingarticles/nga200717.do
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/10/openreach-unveil-new-uk-pricing-fttp-demand-ultrafast-broadband.html
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7858-new-openreach-fibre-on-demand-pricing-may-make-service-more-attractive
It is obvious that the Openreach pricing is an attempt to get more people to order FOD. Yet as of now the ISP's that sell FOD are only selling to Business customers.
I hope when the 2 companies named update their pricing they will consider finding a way to offer it to residential customers too. Apart from my own frustrations, they are missing out on a lot of money.
I'm still going to be digging around and keeping my eye out on the situation.
P.S. One of the strange things is there is a rumour BT Business is soon introducing FTTPod under the label "Infinity Build to Order". I wonder what effect this will have on Cerberus and FluidOne as the market will get smaller. I suspect if BT Business start selling it that they will be the first port of call.
j0hn:
The overall cost is expected to be about the same between the 2 pricing structures.
In other words the build cost will increase significantly to compensate the new 1 year term.
FluidOne only sell to business's. They don't sell to residential customers.
Although the old pricing had a 3 year term, Cerberus don't check Companies House like FluidOne. You could simply be self employed to order FTTPod.
That won't be necessary now that it's a1 year contract.
If FTTPod shows available to you you can order from Cerberus after February 23rd* as a residential customer.
You wouldn't find me paying near on 10k to give my neighbours free FTTP. I'll wait and hope they order it.
* Although OpenReach pricing was released on 1stFeb, BTWholesale don't release their pricing till 23rd Feb.
niemand:
The pricing isn't an attempt to make more people order the product. People don't order from Openreach.
The changes are to encourage CPs to place orders to migrate a number of customers simultaneously to FTTP. Zero incentive for an individual end user, total cost of ownership pretty much the same.
Bowdon:
Thanks for the replies guys :)
I agree paying 10K upfront to give others access is a bit of a kicker. I'm planning to wait for a while to see if FTTP comes to this area at some point before I attempt anything.
I take your point Ignitionnet. I think OR are trying to encourage the companies like Cerberus and FluidOne to sign up more people.
It seems to me that if those 2 ISP's start putting the word out, even sending out mailshots to areas it might be interesting how much interest they get back from that, and they could sign up a community package or something.
I'm thinking the BT Business releasing their business product will squeeze out Cerberus / FluidOne and maybe that is why they are doing it. We all know those 2 companies but joe public is likely to go with the BT brand, especially if they are already BT business customers. I guess we'll have to watch what happens and which direction things go.
j0hn:
There's a 3rd ISP selling FTTPod now.
Syscomm
http://www.syscomm.co.uk
Full list of ISP's selling it can be found below.
https://www.homeandbusiness.openreach.co.uk/fibre-broadband/ultrafast-broadband/ultrafast-fibre-buy-it-now
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