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runitdirect

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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #60 on: December 15, 2017, 09:47:05 AM »

I would suggest everyone stops contributing to this topic. The OP isn't prepared to listen to the advice being given, nor provide us with the details of the existing sockets etc. which would allow us to recommend the best way forward (technically and economically). If we do answer his questions and it all goes wrong he's likely to start blaming us.
No problem, OP if you want help I'd suggest emailing us directly. Really not interested in getting into an argument on here! We see when forums link to us & if we can help chime in. All the info is above.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #61 on: December 15, 2017, 10:17:56 AM »

... especially when admin go into troll mode rather than helping...

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that. Certainly the answers have been a bit uncoordinated, but everyone has been trying to provide you with helpful information, even though you still haven't clearly described your present wiring configuration. Without the latter information it's not possible to give a simple yes/no answer to your shopping list question.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #62 on: December 15, 2017, 11:42:26 AM »

I would suggest everyone stops contributing to this topic. The OP has obviously made his mind up on how he wants to do it and isn't prepared to listen to the advice being given, nor provide us with the details of the existing sockets etc. which would allow us to recommend the best way forward (technically and economically). If we do answer his questions and it all goes wrong he's likely to start blaming us.

Absolutely agree.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2017, 11:58:13 AM »

No, it's not very friendly to withdraw support from a poster. All you can do is give the best advice you can and hope for a good result.

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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2017, 03:08:13 PM »

I've already answered above, it doesn't get any simpler! Assuming you have an incoming line currently terminated to one master socket you need to replace that with a Mk4 :-

https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/adsl-vdsl-faceplates/mk4btopenreachvdslsocket/

You may need a back box if you don't already have one :-

https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/euro-faceplates-backboxes/22mmbackbox/

That will give you a new filtered master socket for your phone. For the extension you just need this kit :-

https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/vdsl-adsl-extension-kits/vdslextensionkit10m/

& add the telephone option at the bottom of the page. That gives you an extension socket with filtered telephone & unfiltered broadband. Job done!


Proposed shopping list:
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NTE5C -MK4
https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/adsl-vdsl-faceplates/mk4btopenreachvdslsocket/

Surface Mount Back Box:
https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/euro-faceplates-backboxes/22mmbackbox/

vDSL/ADSL Extension Kit-10M Internal
https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/vdsl-adsl-extension-kits/vdslextensionkit10m/

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As the master socket will only be used to plug in a telephone, is it an option to use the NTE5A master socket instead of the MK4?

NTE5A
https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/bt-line-boxes-and-sockets/openreach-branded-nte5-master-socket/

Apart from the usual screwdrivers etc, do I need any other tools or odds n ends on my shopping list to install this?
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2017, 03:26:19 PM »

No, you need a filter at the master socket to be able to plug a phone in, as you wanted phone & data on the extension the Mk4 will handle this too. You need the telephone option in the kit (bottom of page), no other tools required. You may need cable clips :-

https://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/cable-clips/cableclip5mmwhite/
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2017, 04:02:16 PM »

No, you need a filter at the master socket to be able to plug a phone in, as you wanted phone & data on the extension the Mk4 will handle this too.
This bit confuses me as the instructions on your site seem to say the extension is connected to the unfiltered connectors on the MK4?

Does that not mean its the extension box doing the filtering?
If the extension is doing the filtering could I not just use a NTE5A with plug-in filter for the phone?
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2017, 04:20:22 PM »

Broadband side-CONNECTED TO UNFILTERED
Phone side-CONNECTED TO FILTERED

The extension is doing NOTHING, the MK4 is providing FILTERED & UNFILTERED outlets.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2017, 04:26:41 PM »

This could cause a bridge tap as the router is supposed to be the first device on the line and in the first socket on the line. However you also have a junction box doing who knows what.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2017, 04:43:02 PM »

This could cause a bridge tap as the router is supposed to be the first device on the line and in the first socket on the line. However you also have a junction box doing who knows what.
I'm afraid you are the one confusing the matter. This is NOT what a bridge tap is at all (the router is going on an extension NOT the master socket) but I'll leave this thread here. OP, if you want any more help contact us directly please. Bye for now.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2017, 04:47:20 PM »

As you said, you can’t compete with eBay
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2017, 04:51:46 PM »

On price, no. On support, advice, warranty etc. Easily. The OP knows where we are.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2017, 04:56:17 PM »

Broadband side-CONNECTED TO UNFILTERED
Phone side-CONNECTED TO FILTERED

The extension is doing NOTHING, the MK4 is providing FILTERED & UNFILTERED outlets.

Thanks for your patience and clarification.
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2017, 08:10:46 PM »

Have the same setup here Master Socket 5C with MK4 faceplate and 10m of data extension cable Cat5e to a socket in another room where the Modem/Router resides but without the phone.

Sometimes when having to make a call to our ISP to run tests they require you to plug the Modem/Router into the test socket that means removing the Filtered Faceplate MK4 and then using a Micro Filter at the test socket and also moving the Modem/Router to the Master Socket.

So was thinking I would need about 4 Meters of Cat5e RJ11 to RJ11 from MS to Modem during the test is there such a cable ?
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Re: MS + Ext ..help!
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2017, 09:36:20 AM »

Why Cat 5? Surely all you need is a high speed ADSL modem cable which you can get from any number of places such as https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/high-speed-adsl-modem-cable-5m-a93cg
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