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5G mmWave for fixed line: FTTP's stalking horse
WWWombat:
The killer alternative to FTTP (putting fibre in the ground, and to every house), will be found if you don't need to put fibre to every house. That's the reason for interest in G.Fast, but it is also reason for interest in 5G mmWave technology too. Ask Google Fiber.
Now it looks like mmWave has got its own "long range" boost, and can be used to get gigabit speeds to 600m.
Verizon have been testing to get the results above, and now look like they will be using 5G mmWave to expand their operations into new cities in AT&T territory (which, incidentally, might be why AT&T want G.Fast to work over coax).
http://wirelessone.news/mimo-2/937-verizon-5g-every-variable-tested-during-the-trials-came-out-better-than-assumed
--- Quote ---A year ago, most experts expected mmWave to be limited to 150-250 meters. Earlier this year, Verizon mentioned good results at 400 meters. Now, Verizon is often seeing excellent results to 600 meters and further. A gigabit is common.
--- End quote ---
Will we start seeing masts built next to each G.Fast pod here? Or just antenna bolted onto the nearest street lamp?
WWWombat:
Unfortunately for the UK (and Europe), "The Business Case Isn't There."
As Dave mentions in that article, Verizon are essentially after new customers, which will fund the new network. In Europe (including the UK), any such network would force competition for existing customers ... so would be harder to find funding for.
With Verizon looking at deployments in 2018, the UK might be looking at proper deployment levels in 2022-24 (even if it hits the news in 2020).
WWWombat:
Incidentally, that site has a good article on adding capacity to cells networks, either through adding more cells & masts (as mmWave would need), adding more spectrum, or adding more antenna.
The third option, more antenna, is the cheapest ... which probably explains why the UK/Europe might be more interested in 5G's using of "massive MIMO" instead of mmWave. Here's the alternative PR, showing where the investment money in the UK is more likely to be going in 2020: http://massivemimo.rocks/43-england-france-and-germany-promise-massive-mimo
Edit: Note that I suspect this is a good enough improvement for UK operators to improve speeds to their mobile customers, I'm not so sure it will give them enough to offer fixed-line alternative services.
niemand:
Apartment buildings in the states have coax all over the place. Being able to send G.fast down it saves a few dollars from having to get fibre to each unit.
Claim gigabit coverage without some of the expense, job done.
Verizon have lots of mobile coverage in areas where AT&T are the incumbent so all good fun.
Bowdon:
I'm assuming 5G mmWave technology is like 4G and 3G technologies i.e. usually used with cell phone networks?
I was wondering what is the ping like in those kind of technologies? Will 5G give as low a ping as fttp or fttc technology?
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