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Author Topic: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.  (Read 963 times)

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1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« on: December 08, 2017, 11:59:58 PM »

From BBC archives.

- 1985 Micro Live reviewing the Commodore Amiga.

https://www.facebook.com/BBCArchive/videos/494338554272513/
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 12:13:00 AM »

"Why?" was my rhetorical response, whilst "talking" to the various Unix systems to which I had access in those days. :D
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 12:24:44 AM »

My first experience of using a mouse was on the Xerox Documenter in the late 80's (don't forget Xerox Parc invented wimp).
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 06:13:03 AM »

I was an Atari user in those days, and I clearly remember those feelings of envy when the Amiga came out. Its graphical capabilities were quite amazing for its time. Those were exciting times.
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2017, 06:29:28 AM »

my Atari 520stfm was the biz.. Especially when we bought something called a modem ??  ::)
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2017, 06:43:48 AM »

I remember spending a small fortune on a 5 MB hard disk and the necessary interfaces.
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2017, 09:04:07 AM »

I knew that mice were going to be important when they began to nibble my card-decks and paper-tape spools.
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2017, 09:10:58 AM »

We had an Amiga 1200 which was our youngest son's PC and I used it sometimes to work from home using a dial up modem and a 3270 emulator (an IBM screen for the uninitiated)  ;) I then got an Amiga 3000 which was later upgraded to an Amiga 4000. I found that these machines wiped the floor with the IBM type PCs of the time. I also ran a MAC emulator on the 4000 which ran extremely well. Eventually though I did move to an IBM type PC but not until around 2000 as the support for the Amiga platform had dried up by then. A real shame as it was way in advance of anything else at the time.

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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2017, 09:17:14 AM »

Hi

I still have windows 2, which uses a mouse

Many thanks

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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2017, 12:25:30 PM »

"Why?" was my rhetorical response, whilst "talking" to the various Unix systems to which I had access in those days. :D

I felt the same, when first encountering mice and windows. You could do things so much faster with a keyboard and command line!

1985 ... I'd just found my way from the university's mainframe to the department's new BSD Unix micros, which were amazingly powerful. And came with unlimited use (unlike the mainframe). But more amazing were the 4 "odd" terminals in the mainframe terminal room that connected to the X.25 PAD (packet assembler/disassembler) instead. They let you across the fledgling JANet ... there was a whole world out there! Which got a lot of use on the Essex MUD machine  :-[

A mouse and a window, a mere desktop, just couldn't compete  :D
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 05:34:25 PM »

. . . the X.25 PAD (packet assembler/disassembler) instead. They let you across the fledgling JANet ... there was a whole world out there! Which got a lot of use on the Essex MUD machine  :-[

Thinking back to those days, I seem to remember somebody finding the telephone numbers for a bank of dial-up modems at UCL. So a local telephone call to UCL, then a side-step to one of their X.25 PADs and out onto Janet.  :D

And, yes, I distinctly remember the Essex MUD.  ;D
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2017, 07:16:36 PM »

Were they ever called mice?
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2017, 09:14:38 PM »

If you used computers before mice & modems came along, and you haven't watched 'Halt and Catch Fire' yet, I'd highly recommend that you do.  (I think it's only on Amazon Prime Video.)
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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2017, 10:27:17 PM »

Just to show my age one of the first computers I worked on as an engineer was an IBM 1401 although by then the System/360 had appeared  so well before the PCs appeared in 1966  :cool:

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Re: 1985 - These weird things called mice and windows.
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2017, 11:50:30 PM »

Ah yes, that was ‘85.

I remember visiting Telehouse in Docklands about 10 years later, late 1990s, a whole building dedicated to data comms and the internet, and thinking how much had changed.

Thing is, despite that big change in a decade from mid 80s, after nearly another 20 years, nothing more seems to have changed much.    We still book holidays using a mouse, just as people did in the 1990s.  Schoolkids ( and their teachers, and the BBC) still delude themselves that a mouse can be used for code writing, just as in the 1990s, only difference is it is now called ‘coding’.

Yes, the internet has got faster, screens are flat, and I can now tap on a tablet LCD instead of clicking a mouse reflected on a big old CRT.   But that's all a bit cosmetic, did real evolution in Operating systems maybe stop 20-30 years ago?

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