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adslmax

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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #90 on: November 19, 2017, 05:16:32 PM »

As for BQM I was busy doing something different away from PC
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #91 on: November 19, 2017, 06:20:05 PM »

Sure you want to pay A&A 60 a month for Internet access?

I remember you being worried about paying Plusnet full price and being worried about losing your referral discounts. Those guys don't offer discounts and don't do referrals, what you see is what you pay.

Pretty crazy paying so much more a month just to get DLM reset.
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #92 on: November 19, 2017, 06:33:57 PM »

Or even get a virgin cable 601/41  :P :fingers:
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #93 on: November 19, 2017, 07:31:40 PM »

Yes but Ignitionnet does a lot of work from home and iirc has a home and office network with more complex requirements than your average home user.
A lot of data is transferred over his line... therefore more bandwidth = more productivity.  :)


Yes I'd love his connection..  but do I need it?   No I dont.  Could I justify the expense?  No I couldn't.
If by some miracle I got that here... it would really only be for willy waving purposes.  ;)
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #94 on: November 19, 2017, 11:30:21 PM »

I work from home all the time. My home is my office. I do have relatively high bandwidth requirements and pay for business service accordingly.

I have a home network, split off from that an office network and separate from all of that 2 lab networks where I replicate customer issues and play with malicious software.

As far as expense goes: the broadband goes on expenses  ;)

I also have a business of my own that I am going to want to develop at some point.

At the moment due to timing and being in the process of changing things around I actually have 4 Internet connections at the moment. BT VDSL @ 70-ish Mb, Pulse8 @ a banded 55 Mb, then the VM Voom 200 and 350 services.

I can't really criticise people for how they react to banding. My reaction was to say, err, <expletive> it and then replace it with cable when it arrived.

I'm dropping 2 of the connections; the Pulse8 is going as is one of the VM connections as it isn't actually mine it's on loan from their technical team and at some point they'll want the modem they lent me back!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2017, 11:33:38 PM by Ignitionnet »
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #95 on: November 20, 2017, 12:00:42 AM »

Fair enough. If I only use pc for internet, plus my daughter on Netflix HD and video chat with my family. Then I think probably better off with PN 40/10 instead just for two adults in the household.
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #96 on: November 20, 2017, 11:01:50 AM »

It is interesting looking back at the times when my "active interest" (not obsession) in internet speeds has waxed and waned.

When I last had DLM intervention, I said b****x, watched the data for 2 days, then went and got on with life. It sorted itself out after a month, and I never noticed.

In 1994, internet access was a fascinating, interesting hobby.

In 2000, 2Mbps ADSL was fascinating, but the real change was that it made work from home possible.

In 2011, the switch to FTTC was engrossing, but mostly about the politics of the rollout. Not the speed itself

Somewhere since about 2009, internet access (and the broadband that made it easy) has become a tool. It just works - for work, entertainment, shopping and social stuff - and I concentrate on other things.

The last 2 times we moved house, broadband grabbed a lot of my attention - to make sure we got sufficient speed when we arrived. Once there and working, it slips off the "todo" list, back to being a useful tool. It gets about the same amount of attention that I pay to having a car - ie attention only when it isn't working!

If we started to lose speed now, I'd be concerned ... but that would more be because of the question as to whether it portends a complete outage, rather than for the small loss in speed right now. My first steps would be to make sure our backup option (4G) was working correctly.
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #97 on: November 20, 2017, 08:48:18 PM »

My modem now been stable for 7 days ongoing but DLM haven't act yet. Is it safe to try rebooted modem to see if sync rate had been kicked in, or just don't because it will making it lots worse for DLM to think it more faulty if rebooted once every 7 days?

Or shall I leave it alone for a month see what happen?

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Stats recorded 20 Nov 2017 20:47:37

DSLAM/MSAN type:        BDCM:0xa48c / v0xa48c
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6F039g1.d24m
DSL mode:                VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                  Showtime
Uptime:                  7 days 0 hour 3 min 6 sec
Resyncs:                0 (since 20 Nov 2017 17:08:34)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):  11.4 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): Not available on VDSL2
Connection speed (kbps): 73998 20000
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Power (dBm):            12.5 -1.0
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INP:                    52.00 55.00
G.INP:                  Enabled Enabled
Vectoring status:        5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)

RSCorr/RS (%):          0.0000 0.1062
RSUnCorr/RS (%):        0.0000 0.0000
ES/hour:                0 0

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Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 33006 Kbps, Downstream rate = 91723 Kbps
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                        G.INP Counters
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errFreeBits:    682966874               242350585

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                        Bearer 1
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                        Bearer 0
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                        Bearer 1
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AgR:            79.68   31.87

Bitswap:        182/182         1076/1076

Total time = 7 days 4 min 32 sec
FEC:            1885            3896
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
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FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            0               2
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 4 min 32 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC:            410             562
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 7 days 4 min 5 sec
FEC:            1885            3896
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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FEC:            1885            3896 in 7 days doesn't look good for DLM data count
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 08:50:57 PM by adslmax »
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #98 on: November 20, 2017, 09:15:25 PM »

Just leave it alone, Max.

Use your access to the Internet for some purpose rather than letting the condition of the service control your life.  :-X
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #99 on: November 20, 2017, 09:18:35 PM »

Or shall I leave it alone for a month see what happen?

Leave it alone period, don't even look at the stats  ;)
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #100 on: November 20, 2017, 09:52:36 PM »

If it was me I would leave it alone, the modem should get some sort of signal from the DLM to say changes have now been made on this circuit and it will retrain by itself.
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #101 on: November 21, 2017, 12:53:04 PM »

My modem now been stable for 7 days ongoing but DLM haven't act yet. Is it safe to try rebooted modem to see if sync rate had been kicked in, or just don't because it will making it lots worse for DLM to think it more faulty if rebooted once every 7 days?

Or shall I leave it alone for a month see what happen?
No, no, no and another no.
FTTC DLM will never remove 1 of its steps with a manual resync.  It just doesn't work like that.
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FEC:            1885            3896 in 7 days doesn't look good for DLM data count
That's very low.
It's actually 1 FEC every 5 mins. That's absolutely nothing to worry about.

G.INP will probably remove from the upstream 1st. Keep an eye out for that. It will trigger a resync. Post back when that happens.
Until then don't stress over it. You'll never notice the difference.
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #102 on: November 21, 2017, 12:59:18 PM »

Ok everyones. I just leave it alone.

Here is latest stats of of now:

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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #103 on: November 21, 2017, 04:03:28 PM »

Those stats are ridiculously clean - my line would have tens of millions of FECs in that time!
As for no CRCs or ES - is the cabinet in your front room by any chance?  :lol:

If DLM can't see that as a top notch line then the rest of us have no hope. :no:
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Re: DLM changed my line profile
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2017, 04:09:15 PM »

My fibre cabinet is the front footpath by my house, just walk across it.

PN fault team has reply to my ticket say there is nothing wrong with the line. BT Estimated speed between 70 and 80 Meg so they can't do nothing about it. They also ran the final GEA TEST.

Saying my line isn't banding and interleaved is very low on downstream and OFF on the upstream reporting 19.1 and downstream report is 70.8 but that was very old GEA TEST (outdated) this doesn't match my current stats.

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GEA Service Test
Test Outcome Pass
Test Outcome Code GTC_FTTC_SERVICE_0000
Description GEA service test completed and no fault found .
Main Fault Location OK
Appointment Required N
NTE Power Status PowerOn
Sync Status In Sync
Downstream Speed 70.8
Upstream Speed 19.1
Profile Name 0.128M-80M Downstream, Retransmission Low - 0.128M-20M Upstream, Error Protection Off
Copper Line Test Pass
Bridge Tap Not Detected
Radio Frequency Ingress Not Detected
REIN Not Detected
Cross Talk Not Detected
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