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banger

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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2017, 04:31:52 PM »

New twisted 2 pair is in, old sync with G.INP 55/11 new sync with new cable 66/19. Pleased its all sorted apart from contractors need to come back and fill in the trench.
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2017, 05:54:56 PM »

New twisted 2 pair is in,

Just a quick query to check . . . it is a two pair cable? Four conductors, arranged as two pairs? I was expecting a five-pair cable to be used, so perhaps it is a reflection upon the price of copper.

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old sync with G.INP 55/11 new sync with new cable 66/19. Pleased its all sorted apart from contractors need to come back and fill in the trench.

That's a nice uplift in synchronisation speed.  :)
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2017, 06:04:30 PM »

Just a quick query to check . . . it is a two pair cable? Four conductors, arranged as two pairs? I was expecting a five-pair cable to be used, so perhaps it is a reflection upon the price of copper.

That's a nice uplift in synchronisation speed.  :)

Openreach said 2 pair but from underground chamber to jointing post is only 1 pair so if I want another line that will need replacing.

Nice sync increase for 33m of cable. This now brings me in line with the Uno estimate for my line when signing up and I am also pleased about the 9meg increase in upload.

Was originally 46/11 before G.INP kicked in.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 06:19:03 PM by banger »
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2017, 06:46:02 PM »

It's definitely not 1 pair? That would be extremely odd. The minimum they would use would be a 2 pair cable, but they often use 5 pair.

Do OpenReach even have a 2 core, 1 pair cable for underground feeds?
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 06:48:08 PM by j0hn »
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2017, 06:58:55 PM »

Not exactly sure what you mean John but Openreach bod replaced my underground feed which was DW6 1 pair (grey) with 2 pair underground twisted pair (black). Maybe from the underground chamber (put in in the 60s) is DW6 as Openreach bod didn't say, just said it was 1 pair thick copper but was twisted pair. Unless he was just trying to shut me up.
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2017, 07:08:48 PM »

Can't fathom out bangers original set-up for love-nor-money ............ however, todays preferred methodology is to use 2-pr UG cable. We do have 5pr, but for costing reasons it would indeed be madness to put this in where a 2pr is sufficient.

The dropwire that will connect to the end of the UG cable and then into the premises, will be 1pr...... again, it is purely down to costings.  :)
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2017, 11:20:30 PM »

Can't fathom out bangers original set-up for love-nor-money ............ however, todays preferred methodology is to use 2-pr UG cable. We do have 5pr, but for costing reasons it would indeed be madness to put this in where a 2pr is sufficient.

The dropwire that will connect to the end of the UG cable and then into the premises, will be 1pr...... again, it is purely down to costings.  :)

Have you not seen the pictures earlier in this thread? 33m of DW6 underground next to gas and electric feeds picking up all sorts of noise from electric I would think. Originally put in by a BT contractor in the early 80s. Today's Openreach engineer said he started in '85 on this patch and hadn't put any DW6 in at all so must have been early 80s when the line was reconnected.
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2017, 12:27:49 PM »

Alas, time is precious and looking at photo's on this old works laptop takes too much time. My main concern is that you mention 33mtrs of DW6 being used 'underground'. This cable was designed purely for overhead/cable on wall purposes.

I'm a 30+yr man and have never, ever come across DW6 being used in this manner .... that is why I was confused over your description.
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2017, 10:46:31 PM »

Have the contractors come back and cemented relayed the flagstones on your drive way ?
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2017, 11:03:31 PM »

Not yet. Openreach promised it would be returned to its original state but contractors were supposed to come back yesterday but nothing. One bloke turned up Thursday to put sand down and then on the afternoon Openreach did the cable but nothing since.
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2017, 11:48:51 PM »

Openreach promised it would be returned to its original state

I am sure it will be as you also have the local council permit a Job like yours should have been completed within 2 days from start to finish on Friday 21st.
Hopefully they will back 1st thing Monday morning to finish the Job  :fingers:
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2017, 12:36:52 AM »

Hope so bit of a mess out there at the moment, any burglars will be falling down holes. :D
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2017, 04:46:34 PM »

Contractors have begun putting my drive back together. :)
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2017, 09:18:46 PM »

 :)
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Re: My Fault- Update
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2017, 03:03:05 PM »

It now seems I am on a 5db target margin as I had a resync at 10am and my reading is now 5db with 68 sync.
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