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Author Topic: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?  (Read 3656 times)

WWWombat

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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2017, 01:06:24 PM »

In autumn 2014, Openreach applied for the right to use unmetered power supplies for the cabs. As part of this, they provided a breakdown of the makeup of a large subsample of their cabs.

These are the numbers:
- BT's likely installed base = 55,000 cabinets
- Sample size = 34,400 cabinets
- ECI M41 = 15,300
- Huawei 5603 = 14,500 cabinets
- Huawei 5616 = 4,600 cabinets

So ECI provided about 45% of the sample, while the sample represented about 62% of the installed base. If the subsample was representative of the whole, then there will have been around 25,000 ECI cabinets in total.

BT had largely finished the commercial rollout at this time, and was well into the BDUK projects. What I have seen suggests to me, as others have seen, that Huawei has taken the lion's share of the BDUK market. Not exclusively at the start, for sure. But I have seen plenty of exchanges that were ECI-only in the commercial rollout, that went with Huawei for the additional BDUK cabinets.

BT now have around 80,000 cabinets. If the extra 25,000 cabinets were all Huawei, and the 2014 sub-sample was representative of the whole, then ECI would now be about 31% of the installed base.

BT originally trialled ECI in York, and that exchange has early and late examples of ECI cabinets being deployed, from late 2010 to early 2015 - with a smattering of BDUK Huawei's also appearing in 2013-15 too. However, the 2017 cabinets are only Huawei's; March 2015 is the most recent ECI installation I have seen (unless you know better), so that 31% estimate might well be a reasonable one.
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2017, 03:39:35 PM »


BT originally trialled ECI in York, and that exchange has early and late examples of ECI cabinets being deployed, from late 2010 to early 2015 - with a smattering of BDUK Huawei's also appearing in 2013-15 too. However, the 2017 cabinets are only Huawei's; March 2015 is the most recent ECI installation I have seen (unless you know better), so that 31% estimate might well be a reasonable one.



quote author=rpdmallett link=topic=19518.msg344491#msg344491 date=1489844312]
"We know that ECI cabinets were stopped being installed quite a while ago" - mine is a new ECI cabinet, installed early January this year.

I was the first connection to it.  Am suffering from extremely poor upstream bandwidth (old 0xd086 firmware), but otherwise ok.


Wonder if this is correct...
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2017, 04:36:12 PM »

Unlikely, though possibly from a result of delayed planning.  They stopped installing ECI cabs many months ago. For a while ECI's were only used to add capacity for existing ECI installations. Any new FTTC deployments have been Huawei for some time now though. It was round about October 2016 they started adding Huawei to existing ECI cabinets.

An ECI went live on my exchange (PCP 30 ESDAL) about a month ago, but the actual shell of the cab was erected over 2 years ago. Power issues delayed the cab going live. Any "new" ECI will likely have been in the planning from before any decision to completely ditch them.
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2017, 07:37:53 PM »

Wonder if this is correct...

It is correct - but then so also is j0hn's comment "possibly from a result of delayed planning".

The cabinet is in Faversham near a road junction (A251/A2) that is due for upgrade (potential for roundabout / traffic lights / other).  Originally we were planned to have FTTC in September 2015, but when the council announced that the junction was due for development, that plan obviously went on hold (at least, that's what I'm guessing).

About 6 months ago the junction's future was finalised (a roundabout) and I think BT then took their plans off-hold.  Obviously they'd had an ECI cabinet in storage all that time, ready to install.

So am I the first person to be connected to the last ever ECI cabinet installation?  I feel so privileged...   :'(
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2018, 09:03:47 PM »

On Monday my Sky Fibre went live and just discovered I am connected to an ECI cab:

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> adsl info --vendor
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 22431 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78438 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 9995 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39970 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id:      IFTN:0xb206
ChipSet VersionNumber:  0xb206
ChipSet SerialNumber:   5502562905
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2018, 10:03:55 PM »

On Monday my Sky Fibre went live and just discovered I am connected to an ECI cab:

That's unfortunate. However it must be better than nothing.

I see you are consuming the Openreach 40/10 Mbps product. By looking at the "Max" line, we see that leaves plenty of "headroom" for the effects of cross-talkers, etc.
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2018, 10:30:36 PM »

That's unfortunate. However it must be better than nothing.


someone has to be  ;) ;D
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2018, 10:45:56 PM »

LOL you can have my 1Km Huawei cabinet with G.INP and XdB and I'll take your short ECI line
Max:    Upstream rate = 22431 Kbps, Downstream rate = 78438 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 9995 Kbps, Downstream rate = 39970 Kbps

B*CAT says unfortunate the guy has won the FTTC lottery with specs like this  ;)
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2018, 09:22:47 AM »

latest stats, still on b206 chipset version.

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# adsl info --vendor
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 31208 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79998 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79987 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id:      IFTN:0xb206
ChipSet VersionNumber:  0xb206
ChipSet SerialNumber:   5501843597
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 07:04:48 AM by Chrysalis »
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2018, 10:31:42 AM »

Here's mine. I'm on d086 with my AAISP line where the Zen line (now cancelled and fully refunded) was on b206. Line length is about 450m.

AAISP line
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Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    1
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 22641 Kbps, Downstream rate = 94182 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 54998 Kbps

DSLAM/MSAN type:        IFTN:0xd086 / v0xd086
Modem/router firmware:  AnnexA version - A2pv6F039v.d26a
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 10:33:59 AM by Ixel »
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2018, 01:22:07 PM »

Not sure what mines currently on as I'm at work, but I'm surprised at how different mine and Ixels connection are given I'm also about 450 meters, possibly a little longer and on an ECI. Mind you I shouldn't really be surprised, I've always known my lines be at the bottom end of performance for the distance.

My connection sits around 47/8 at the moment, during a very brief power cut last night my attainable was around 57/10 if I  remember correctly.
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2018, 01:36:29 PM »

Here's mine on an IDNet line:

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xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 26340 Kbps, Downstream rate = 89676 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 20000 Kbps, Downstream rate = 79987 Kbps

ChipSet Vendor Id: IFTN:0xb206
ChipSet VersionNumber: 0xb206
ChipSet SerialNumber: 5502325140
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2018, 02:01:03 PM »

Here's mine approx. 350 meters from the cabinet Aluminium cable BT 80/20

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Stats recorded 25 Jan 2018 13:58:38

DSLAM/MSAN type:           IFTN:0xb206 / v0xb206
Modem/router firmware:     AnnexA version - A2pv6F039v.d26a
DSL mode:                  VDSL2 Profile 17a
Status:                    Showtime
Uptime:                    9 days 22 hours 46 min 39 sec
Resyncs:                   0 (since 21 Jan 2018 16:10:35)
         
            Downstream   Upstream
Line attenuation (dB):     14.4      0.0
Signal attenuation (dB):   Not available on VDSL2      
Connection speed (kbps):   46237      17652
SNR margin (dB):           5.9      6.0
Power (dBm):               4.8      4.8
Interleave depth:          1      1
INP:                       0      0
G.INP:                     Not enabled      Not enabled
Vectoring status:          5 (VECT_UNCONFIGURED)      

RSCorr/RS (%):             N/A      0.4573
RSUnCorr/RS (%):           N/A      0.0000
ES/hour:                   3.65      1.79/quote]
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2018, 03:44:39 PM »

Not sure what mines currently on as I'm at work, but I'm surprised at how different mine and Ixels connection are given I'm also about 450 meters, possibly a little longer and on an ECI. Mind you I shouldn't really be surprised, I've always known my lines be at the bottom end of performance for the distance.

My connection sits around 47/8 at the moment, during a very brief power cut last night my attainable was around 57/10 if I  remember correctly.

I'm curious to know what version your line card is running. Two factors helped me though I believe.

1) The line card, the firmware 0xd086 version seemed to give me a speed boost compared to my other line which was on a line card running a different version (0xb206).

2) The SFI engineers. The very final one if I recall correctly did his best to find me the best possible pair along the route to the cabinet, checking every section of the route from the house to the cabinet. Although a problem is still present I'm happy with things as they are, just need to shake off interleaving again as I'd rather have a reduction in connection speed than +8ms on my ping. I notice it in first person shooters, hard to explain.
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Re: How many people here are connected to a ECI cabinet?
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2018, 06:43:25 PM »

Line card details attached.
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