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Author Topic: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?  (Read 598 times)

Bowdon

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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2017, 12:46:27 AM »

I bought acronis true image 2017 from amazon.

I'm wondering, because I use 2 drives (ssd main, and hdd storage drive).. i usually install most programs to the storage drive except essential programmes.

Would I get any benefit from installing this to the ssd drive?
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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2017, 01:14:33 AM »

indeed I would say thats much better value than the branded NAS units.

Also looking at the back picture it looks like for future expansion there is room to install a SATA addon card for more slots, although not sure where the drives would be placed with all bays full.

I also have observed there is a massive thing on the FreeNAS forums about ECC been required for ZFS, I personally think non ECC ram on zfs has no real extra downsides compared to when using non ECC ram on other filesystems.  But obviously if people want some peace of mind they can get a ECC system which this unit is for a much better price than other stuff I have found.
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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2017, 07:00:44 PM »

I also have observed there is a massive thing on the FreeNAS forums about ECC been required for ZFS, I personally think non ECC ram on zfs has no real extra downsides compared to when using non ECC ram on other filesystems.  But obviously if people want some peace of mind they can get a ECC system which this unit is for a much better price than other stuff I have found.

I found in some cases that dogma ruled the FreeNAS forums. If you weren't going by the 1GB of memory for every TB of storage "rule", you should be cast into a fiery pit ;)
IXsystems (the company behind FreeNAS) eventually chipped in with their opinion and covered some basic configuration topics in a blog post. The blog post was the 1st in a three part series. Read the forums and read the blog posts then make up your own mind depending on your needs.

EDIT: quote from the blog, "ECC RAM or Not? This is probably the most contested issue surrounding ZFS"

EDIT2: Sorry no idea about the SSD. Been meaning to buy one eventually
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 07:12:02 PM by BigJ »
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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2017, 10:43:19 PM »

I love my 4 (nope, older than that!)6-year old HP Microserver N40L.  If you're willing to do some learning, it's great to build your own NAS.

Mine runs FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE with:

  • SanDisk 160GB SSD (internal, optical drive bay) boot disk
  • 4x WD Red 4TB HDs (internal)
  • 4x WD Red 4TB HDs (external eSATA-connected enclosure)
  • 6GB ECC RAM
  • HP Remote Access Card
  • Generic ASMedia SATA add-on card, with 2x eSATA and 1xSATA ports (for later expansion)

The 8 spinning-rust drives are arranged as a single ZFS 'zpool', consisting of four mirrored-pairs ('vdevs' in ZFS-speak).  So, 32TB of raw storage provides 16TB of actual storage.  This has expanded over the years -- just added a pair of drives every 18 months or so.

The machine's easily able to saturate gigabit Ethernet reading and writing to the ZFS pool.  Plus, it runs a Minecraft server and some other bits and bobs.  FreeBSD 9.x and above are more than capable of automatically tuning ZFS to work with a given amount of RAM.

...and I went for ECC RAM because the server could use it, so why not!
« Last Edit: March 10, 2017, 10:48:12 PM by displaced »
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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2017, 03:18:50 PM »

Well FreeNAS 10 RC1 is out so I've taken it for a quick spin on the HP N54L with two drivers in mirrored configuration. I found the GUI was generally usable, a bit slow every now and then as parts of the page dynamically updated.

My Filemanager program (Nemo) clocked it at 130MB/s copying a 6.4GB file to a NFS share, peaking around 150GB/s. All very unscientific I know :)

EDIT:
Using Rsync to copy to the NAS, it averaged upload at 102 MB/s.
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Bowdon

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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2017, 01:23:27 PM »

It took me 1 hour 20 minutes to backup and validate the image with acronis to a usb storage device.

Having bought the usb storage device it got me thinking that this is actually the first usb 3.0 device I've bought since usb 3.0 came out! lol.. I'm thinking i might be alone in that. The couple of USB storage devices I have are usb 2 mainly for cheapness..but yea it surprised me. i have all these usb 3 ports and never fully used them lol.
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Re: What NAS drive do you guys use/recommend?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 07:05:27 PM »

Ah yes, I still remember my astonishment when I switched from a USB2 external drive to one with USB3. I'd read about the large improvements in speed but seeing it in action was still a surprise :)
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