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Weaver

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Re: MTU
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2017, 10:28:36 AM »

Surely it would be cheaper for BT to get on with it and get rid of the 20CN asap rather than having to support two systems any longer, especially seeing as there are presumably not that many left.
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kitzuser87430

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Re: MTU
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2017, 11:11:06 AM »

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presumably not that many left.

From the ISP review article only 1600 exchanges left. So say 100 weeks...16/week
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Re: MTU
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2017, 09:45:43 PM »

Been waiting 11 years for are local exchange to be upgraded to 21CN and is still 20CN though FTTC crept in via a head-end exchange giving us more BB speed than a 21CN could provide, just wondering what other benefits there is to being on a 21CN exchange ?
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Re: MTU
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2017, 12:52:02 PM »

Surely it would be cheaper for BT to get on with it and get rid of the 20CN asap rather than having to support two systems any longer, especially seeing as there are presumably not that many left.
I was thinking that they probably want to get rid of both 20CN and 21CN exchange based DSLAMs.  The recent trials of long range FTTC and 16Meg FTTC seem to be aimed at delivering services comparable to ADSL2+ from the cabinet.  Would be interested to know whether user counts on ADSL are reducing, and by how much.
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Re: MTU
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »

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benefits there is to being on a 21CN exchange ?

Uncapped upload (20CN capped at 448 kbps)

much improved DLM

faster download (if close enough to the exchange)

able to sign up with Andrews and Arnold

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Re: MTU
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2017, 06:06:13 PM »

Would be interested to know whether user counts on ADSL are reducing, and by how much.

Lots of statistics are available from Ofcom, things like the Connected Nations Report or quarterly telecoms data tables.
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Weaver

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Re: MTU
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2017, 04:22:32 PM »

Thanks to kitzuser87430 for that list - I had forgotten.

Is it the case that AA will not take on anyone who is on 20CN now? We discussed the issue of AA and 20CN in a earlier thread a good while back. Kitizen aesmith was, maybe still is, an AA 20CN user.

Any AA users who are on the traditional ‘units-based’ tariff will get twice as many MB 'office hours' download allowance.
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Re: MTU
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2017, 09:32:45 PM »



Kitizen aesmith was, maybe still is, an AA 20CN user.
Still is.  There's no plan for 21CNat our exchange, they're going to site a cabinet by the exchange so the village can get FTTC.  Everything out of range will have to stay 20CN, it's all EO so no existing cabinets.
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Re: MTU
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2017, 10:10:56 PM »

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Is it the case that AA will not take on anyone who is on 20CN now

Yep, I went through the order process and was offered nothing.

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There's no plan for 21CNat our exchange

Same as mine ....just by the end of 2018 along with the other 1598 20CN exchanges

only 100 EO lines on our exchange, but going by codelook 3 cabinets are pencilled in by Nov this year
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Re: MTU
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2017, 11:10:28 PM »

BT should have been made to prioritise this some years back.
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Re: MTU
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2017, 08:32:00 AM »

Still is.  There's no plan for 21CNat our exchange, they're going to site a cabinet by the exchange so the village can get FTTC.  Everything out of range will have to stay 20CN, it's all EO so no existing cabinets.
sounds like we're in similar situation's  :(
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Re: MTU
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2017, 12:30:12 PM »

BT should have been made to prioritise this some years back.
I tried chasing this up via the various bodies, however nobody is interested in anything except "high speed" or "super fast" depending on who you're speaking to.  They're all fully focussed on increasing the number of people getting speeds of 30meg or greater, and have no interest in service improvements that don't hit that definition.
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