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Author Topic: How quiet should the quiet line test be?  (Read 2756 times)

dfects

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How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« on: September 22, 2016, 08:47:53 PM »

Hiya,

Our new FTTC connection was working great for about a week. It went from 36mb to 40mb where it held for a few days but now we're banded to 32.4mb with a noise margin of 9.1 :(

My question relates to the quiet line test... how quiet should it actually be? Should you be able to tell its actually connected or should it be dead silent? I'm using a cheapo £4 argos corded phone and there is no crackles, pops or other noises other than a very quiet monotone hiss with the ear piece close to my ear (best way I can think of describing it).

Thanks
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j0hn

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Re: How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 09:22:18 PM »

I've never seen banding at 32.4mb. It's usually a round figure, like 32000 or 31999.
What modem are you using and does it show the current sync rate?
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Re: How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 09:26:11 PM »

It should be silent. A hiss indicates a problem
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Starman

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Re: How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 09:29:26 PM »

That hiss could just be background noise from the mic on the handset. If the phone has a mute option try that and see if it disappears. But yes for a good pair it should be completely silent.
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dfects

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Re: How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 09:52:37 PM »

I've never seen banding at 32.4mb. It's usually a round figure, like 32000 or 31999.
What modem are you using and does it show the current sync rate?

I got that information from the BT forum where I was linked to this post: https://community.plus.net/t5/Library/FTTC-DLM-What-it-is-How-it-works/ba-p/1322799

Its a BT smart hub (home hub 6?).

Code: [Select]
DSL uptime:
1 Days, 5 Hours 15 Minutes 10 Seconds
Data rate:
9.68 kbps / 32.40 kbps
Maximum data rate:
9678 / 39063
Noise margin:
6.1 / 8.8
Line attenuation:
25.1
Signal attenuation:
VPI / VCI:
0/38
Modulation:
G_993_2_ANNEX_B
Latency type:
Fast Path

It went down from 9.1 to 8.8 this morning without a resync, hoping its DLM lowering the noise margin. I used to have an intel NUC pc and a couple of hdds along with a raspberry pi sat within about 15cm of the hub. Thats with the cordless phone too. I've since removed all of that in the hope it was interference from all that.

I have to admit I've not tried the quiet line test directly in the master socket (we don't have a test socket, new build with external grey box) just through the ADSL filter as I don't wish to kill the DSL for now while hopefully the DLM will lower the noise margin. Does it make a huge difference?
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dfects

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Re: How quiet should the quiet line test be?
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 09:54:17 PM »

Oh just to add, the smart hub has a mistake on the tech info page where mbps is listed as kbps for the data rate ???
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