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[Dray]

I don't think R4 select the news based on their target audience tbh

[sevenlayermuddle]

I see there's now a formal ban on US air travel, following earlier the FAA advice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37662660

Of course, it only applies to that particular model, 'Samsung Galaxy Note 7', if I have that right.   But I wonder, are airport security staff around the world assumed to be smartphone geeks who know one Samsung Galaxy 7 model from another?   

Or should anybody with a recent Samsung expect to be taken aside for embarrassing checks at least, and delays with missed flights at worst? 

[NEXUS2345]

Just as a quick note, the phone has a USB C port whereas the other 7 series galaxy models have a Micro USB, and the phone has 'Note7' clearly written on the back.

[sevenlayermuddle]

Just as a quick note, the phone has a USB C port whereas the other 7 series galaxy models have a Micro USB, and the phone has 'Note7' clearly written on the back.

That's good news, as long as it's properly communicated to security staff at all airports around the world that might fly to/from the USA?   

The situation might be more confused with iPhones, where the text on the back can be very hard to read.   At least, it seems, vs their arch-enemy in Cupertino, Samsung have got that bit right.   

[c6em]

Curiously though Samsung makes significant parts, principally some processors as I recall for the iphone series, and is due to make the screen for the iphone8.
As to why?
It makes them money and if they did not make the parts they figure that rather than Apple making fewer or more rubbish phones and the customers turning to Samsung that instead that Apple would make a mega effort and source the parts from elsewhere. All with the result that Samsung would loose out both ways.

Must make meetings between customer and supplier interesting though that was equally the case in my former sector where the mutual loathing between both was evident and both parties spent the entire contract trying to screw over the other.
Indeed one major player in an associated sector once said that they made more money out of the court cases at the end of the project than they ever did from the main contract itself.

[kitz]

one major player in an associated sector once said that they made more money out of the court cases at the end of the project than they ever did from the main contract itself

Why am I not surprised 

[sevenlayermuddle]

I wonder if they'll end up arguing over patent rights to Samsung's latest packaging ? 

[phi2008]

Oh dear, the replacements that Samsung are sending out, after recalling these devices, are also bursting into flames.   

Samsung used to buy in their batteries from another manufacturer, then they started using their own in the Note(60-70% of the batteries came from Samsung, 30-40% from China's ATL). I think the odds of a fire/faulty battery were actually about 1 in 32,000.

Samsung had(has?) the second biggest R&D budget in the world, they'll have brilliant scientists and engineers, I can't understand how they've ended up here.

[Chrysalis]

It is amusing this happened when they used to have removable batteries.

Just think how much cheaper it would have been if they only had to recall batteries instead of the entire device.

[phi2008]

There is a "re-boxing" video showing how to return the phone - they had to provide a special box with a fire proof lining and also rubber gloves because the lining can irritate skin.

I have an LG G3, one of the selling points for me was a removable battery. Manufacturers claim non-removable saves space but if you open a phone with a non-removable battery not much space is saved and the LG G3, for example, is very thin anyway. As far as I'm concerned it just looks like a way to tie the consumer to the manufacturer - promoted, of course, by the ultimate "lock-in" company - Apple.

[Chrysalis]

Which is why I am considering the LG G5 as my next phone.

I am annoyed the G5 has no water resistance, but on the flip side I gain a FM radio back which my S5 doesnt have.

The S5 lack of ram is starting to really bother me as apps in the background keep been flushed from ram.

Samsung allowed themselves to fall into apple's game which is selling phone's for how they look.