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Author Topic: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)  (Read 16448 times)

William Grimsley

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Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« on: January 29, 2016, 07:46:36 PM »
[Moderator note: This thread has been created by splitting off the posts from the "DSLstats v5.6 released" thread.]

Hi,

Is the BT Home Hub 5 (Type B) going to be included in DSLstats at some point?

Many thanks.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2016, 07:32:16 PM by burakkucat »
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 11:10:48 PM »
I'm sorry, but no. DSLstats will only ever work with Broadcom based modems.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 11:41:22 PM »
The BT Home Hub 5B is a Broadcom chipset (unlike the HH5A)

I don't have one here but presume DSLstats can report its data
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 07:30:32 AM »
If that's the case, then it depends on whether the HH5B has an accessible telnet interface, which leads to the BusyBox shell. If it does, then DSLstats ought to work with it, otherwise not.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 10:21:39 AM »
How do we check this?
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2016, 11:59:58 AM »
Quote from: William Grimsley on January 30, 2016, 10:21:39 AM
How do we check this?

Determine the IP address of the Home Hub on your network.

Type "telnet the_address"
If you get an error of the form "'telnet' is not recognised ..." you will need to enable it.
See https://www.rootusers.com/how-to-enable-the-telnet-client-in-windows-10/
Use the graphical interface.
Earlier versions of Windows will be similar.
Earlier still versions of Windows had telnet enabled.

Connection example using my HG612
Code: [Select]
C:\Users\aw1>telnet 192.168.0.1
screen clears
Code: [Select]
Welcome Visiting Huawei  Home Gateway
Copyright by Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Login:censored
Password: censored
ATP>sh
BusyBox v1.9.1 (2014-01-21 16:44:38 CST) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
#

If you get that far, others can tell you what to do next better than I.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2016, 12:29:55 PM »
Thanks, adrianw.

This is what I get.



Ok, so I then typed telnet 192.168.1.254 80 and I got this:



Another edit, I've just found a "Telnet" port forwarding option and applied it to the PC I'm using now but still no luck.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 12:35:21 PM »
Perhaps this helps: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/BT/BTHomeHub/TELNET.htm

(I don't know if it applies to the HH5B).
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 01:08:37 PM »
Quote from: William Grimsley on January 30, 2016, 12:29:55 PM
Thanks, adrianw.

This is what I get.


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telnet being unable to open a connection implies that the HH5B does not support being accessed by telnet.
I seem to recall having a modem which would support telnet, but only if you turned it on by accessing a GUI diagnostic page directly.
I do not know if there is any similar magic for the HH5B, if there is it seems a well kept secret.

Port forwarding is probably a red herring, as it is usually used to map incoming connections to a specific port to a specific port and machine on your internal network.

NB. Your imgur images are sometimes inaccessible.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 01:11:25 PM »
Ah ok, that's odd that you can't access the Imgur images as they're always there. I have set up a port forwarding line up for Telnet which translates port 23 to port 23 but when I type telnet 192.168.1.254 it just says it can't connect even though there's a purpose entry there for Telnet.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 01:26:58 PM »
Quote from: adrianw on January 30, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
NB. Your imgur images are sometimes inaccessible.

That could be Plusnet and their inability to reproduce a problem for you.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2016, 01:44:50 PM »
Hi

I think your telnet is wrong.

Port 80 is http, and your second picture shows telnet port 80 response

You need to telnet 192.168.1.254 23

Or whatever your telnet port is set to, but it should not be set to standard service ports for other services, such as http, SMTP, pop FTP etc

I hope that helps

Many thanks

John
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 02:00:59 PM »
Quote from: ejs on January 30, 2016, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: adrianw on January 30, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
NB. Your imgur images are sometimes inaccessible.

That could be Plusnet and their inability to reproduce a problem for you.
Yes, it does look as if Plusnet users have problems with imgur.
I am stuck with them as it would cost me an arm and leg to change ISP, having renewed my Plusnet contract when I switched to FTTC.
I was not helping with the imgur aside.

Perhaps William should get a router/modem or router + modem combination from which he can get stats if he wants to experiment with his line.
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2016, 11:21:56 AM »
Quote from: d2d4j on January 30, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Hi

I think your telnet is wrong.

Port 80 is http, and your second picture shows telnet port 80 response

You need to telnet 192.168.1.254 23

Or whatever your telnet port is set to, but it should not be set to standard service ports for other services, such as http, SMTP, pop FTP etc

I hope that helps

Many thanks

John

Hi John,

Yes, I was just testing port 80 to see if it was the port and I tried port 23 again but no luck. These BT Home Hub's are tight...
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Re: Experiments With A BT HH5 (Type B)
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2016, 12:53:36 PM »
Hi

Sorry I know seemed obvious but I just wanted to make sure

I have a few thoughts, such as perhaps it moved from telnet to ssh, and if so, I tear using 22 or 222

Also, have you run a port scan from internal network to see what ports maybe open unless masked

I'm sorry if I'm wrong though, it's just quick thoughts and we do not use HH

Many thanks

John
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