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jack21

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Low Wattage Desktop
« on: December 03, 2015, 08:06:47 AM »

I've recently put together a very low wattage desktop PC for my day-to-day needs; it may be of interest to you.

Over the years I've aimed for a low power consumption desktop which would perform well as a general-use computer. I gradually moved away from a PC to laptops, most often with their screen removed and with output to a 19" monitor, and found that I could get wattage figures down to around 25-30 for a machine with good overall performance. I could get even lower power figures on certain laptops by employing under-clocking, even as low as 12W on a Toshiba down-clocked to 175MHz, but performance was too poor to be acceptable.  A Raspberry Pi at 2-3W did well as a router stats gatherer, and still does, but it isn't up to use as a desktop.

So I investigated low-wattage chipset motherboards and eventually settled on a Gigabyte mini-ITX J1900N motherboard with Celeron quad core 2.4GHz/core inclusive - a snip at £50 from eBuyer. Add in an ITX case at £10, a 2GB stick of low voltage RAM at £10, and using a Pico-style power unit at £10, spare 2.5" SSD, and a spare 12V adapter, put together the whole thing for just £80.

In use, the machine performs really well, responsive, quiet (it comes with passive cooling), and it consumes between 9W at idle and 13.5W with all cores forced to run at 100%. Though it is targetted for use with Windows, and comes with said drivers, I'm not a Windows fan, and instead run Linux Mint, my usual favourite Linux distro - and it runs very well indeed, so much so that It is now my main usage computer. Cooling is fine; around 45C with totally passive cooling (no case fan), but I've added in a tiny 12v quiet cpu fan which results in typical temperatures of 34-36C. I'm not a 'gamer' so can't comment on its suitability for that purpose, but as a general-use desktop it suits well.

I did also install Windows 7 as a test, and it ran with good performance too.....no issues - but that was just out of interest in case anyone asked.

http://www.ebuyer.com/725330-gigabyte-ga-j1900n-d2h-celeron-2ghz-vga-hdmi-7-1-channel-audio-mini-itx-motherboard-ga-j1900n-d2h
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LVYF3HE/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321690973400
« Last Edit: December 03, 2015, 08:39:38 AM by jack21 »
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 02:41:25 PM »

Thank you for posting that information. Hopefully the hardware will give you long and reliable service.  :)
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 09:57:20 PM »

I was wondering do have any temperature monitoring software running on this desktop for a comparison.


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jack21

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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2015, 06:27:31 AM »

I use the 'Hardware Sensors Monitor' app, which can be selected (and displayed) on the Mint Panel, for temperature monitoring. I used to use 'psensor' but find the panel-app handier.

In normal use, each core runs in the range 33-36C, and the cores vary from each other by +/- 1C - that's with a tiny, silent 4cm fan sitting on the heatsink. If the fan is off, the temps stabilise in the mid-40's. My Raspberry Pi, running DSLstats, runs in the range 33-39C - depending on ambient temp.

Using only around 12W,  I can run it via my 300VA UPS, there to provide power to modem/router/pi, without any fear of a power outage draining the UPS too quickly.
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015, 12:14:25 PM »

Looks good  :) Where did you buy your memory from please?

DDR3/-L SO-DIMM

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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015, 12:36:40 PM »

I bought the memory from Crucial UK......speedy service - it arrived in less than 24 hours!
Their 4GB option was only about £5 more, but I didn't need it for Linux Mint.

Crucial 2GB DDR3-1600 SODIMM : CT6963101
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2015, 12:47:55 PM »

Thanks, that would be my choice as well...
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2015, 05:17:13 PM »

What do you use to power the psu?
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2015, 05:47:40 PM »

Because I wanted a near-silent setup, I went for a  Pico-style adapter (see link above) - providing a 24-pin connector, 4-pin connector plus molex and sata connectors, which itself  requires a 12V DC supply ..... I used an old 240 AC>12V DC laptop adapter "brick" from my spares box  (I've seen them cheap enough on eBay) , but could have used any 12V DC supply which gave enough wattage.

The main alternative is to use a quiet-enough ATX/ITX-type PSU which has the requisite connectors; I did exactly that until the Pico-type adapter arrived. The PSU I used there was a 300W ATX and it was very quiet, unlike some others I tried.

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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2016, 09:57:49 AM »

I've recently put together a very low wattage desktop PC for my day-to-day needs; it may be of interest to you.

I use almost the same, silent, setup for my pfSense router, though I  have an ASUS N3150I-C motherboard (has AES-NI crypto acceleration) -

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The Celeron N3150 is a quad-core processor with a TDP of only 6 W, 1.6 GHz base clock and turbo clock of 2.08 GHz, targeted on low-cost desktop computers


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/celeron-n3150-cpu-review/
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jack21

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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2016, 10:23:59 AM »

Interesting.....what price is that mobo? How does it do re overall pc-in-use power-draw?

After 2 months of using my setup (with Linux Mint 17.2), I'm extremely pleased with its behaviour/performance; does all my day-2-day office-type work really well. I even ran Virtualbox on it for a while, and that was satisfactory enough (but I've since moved that back to my experimentation machine, a HP 6200 Pro with an i3 CPU, and use the J1900 only for office stuff).
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Re: Low Wattage Desktop
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2016, 11:34:13 AM »

The price is around £70(plus shipping). Don't have a figure for overall draw - has 4GB RAM, 50GB SSD, dual port Intel NIC, nothing that should use much power.
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