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Author Topic: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall  (Read 15803 times)

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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 07:37:12 PM »

Relax, you certainly haven't violated etiquette. Reviews of significant equipment are welcome.
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 07:40:13 PM »

 :'(
phew, nasty minute there. :-)
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 09:02:08 PM »

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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2015, 10:43:31 PM »

@Weaver.   B*cat was just jk about my 'klaws'..  Normally I'm quite big on the nail & nail varnish thing, my latest fav is a magnetic blue where use of a magnet causes interesting designs.  Youre safe just right now though as they are bare.  ;D
 
A friend said to me recently its the first time in >15yrs that shes known me that I dont have painted nails.    Thats only because the past few months have been so hectic I really havent had time to do them :(

PS no you most certainly havent violated etiquette, its us that have done that, by having a light hearted moment and digressing - apologies :)
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 12:01:01 AM »

We should perhaps take the bufferbloat thing to another thread. My fault, because I started it, ill-advisedly.

Interesting stuff indeed though, but very confused and ill-defined. The Wikipedia article imho isn't great. The vague use of the term "buffer" needs to be replace by "queue", and queue where, how many etc
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 12:35:36 AM »

Split the bufferbloat discussion to here because it is an interesting topic it its own right :)
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2015, 01:11:08 AM »

btw if anyone is interested, I could post my own xml config so that people can get an idea of what its all about. Its rather long unfortunately.
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2015, 08:43:33 AM »

I wrote a wiki page on basic firebrick config...

http://support.aa.net.uk/FireBrick_2700_Configuration

But it can do a lot more.
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 06:36:38 PM »

Fyi, the entire user manuals are freely available at
    http://www.firebrick.co.uk/manuals.php?PRODUCT=2700
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 09:45:25 PM »

The 2500 manuals are located here -- http://www.firebrick.co.uk/manuals.php?PRODUCT=2500

The 2700 manuals are located here -- http://www.firebrick.co.uk/manuals.php?PRODUCT=2700

I'm wondering what processor is used in those devices?
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2015, 10:38:26 PM »

wondering what processor is used in those devices?

I believe it's ARM. There's a video on YouTube of a lecture given by RevK, one of the directors of Firebrick, where he talks about the origins of the group, and he mentions something about it there.
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2015, 01:00:31 AM »

wondering what processor is used in those devices?

I believe its ARM. There's a video on YouTube of a lecture given by RevK, one of the directors of Firebrick, where he talks about the origins of the group, and he metions something about it there.

Ah, yes. You are correct.  :)  I only watched that video a day or two ago! (Brain fade.  :-[  )

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I am actually connected via a FireBrick 105 whilst making this post! And I've spent the last two hours attempting to upgrade its firmware . . . Without any success.  :(
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2015, 02:33:12 AM »

I've heard reviews / people say its good, but is it really £500+ good? Does it really outperform similar £200~ budget routers?
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2015, 06:17:18 AM »

is it really £500+ good? Does it really outperform similar £200~ budget routers?

Easily, and then some. The usability of it, the code quality and the vast range of functions. It's the wrong thing to compare it to £200 devices. It's a much cheaper and easier-to-use Cisco. It's a very serious business-grade device that has the ease of use that puts it into a class of its own.

Ask yourself, can you read, on approx one screenful, the entire config of your router, scan it for mistakes, and difference it to see what you changed? I can look at the config examples that CrazyTeeka pointed at earlier and copy-paste parts of them. The XML config is just sanity finally arrived. (And it's optional, if you don't speak XML, then you can simply use the web UI  forms same as you would eith a home user router.)

I can't imagine ever going back to a SOHO-class router. It would be far too horrible. :-)

As for code quality, the Firebrick guys really know what they are doing, and bugs get fixed fast. The big difference compared to VastCorp's devices is that you can simply talk to the authors, they  have names and are on irc and email and they will listen, no corporate paralysis.

Not six stars, but seven. Take a look at the XML config examples, the wiki and the manuals.
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Re: I love my Firebrick 2500 router/firewall
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2015, 06:41:01 AM »

As another illustration of how serious this kit is: The devices (“fully loaded”? can't remember) offer VRRP.

The fully-loaded models speak BGP (and I think OSPF is coming), L2TP and offer easy VPN or (scary) IPSec VPN.

This illustrates my point about them being business-grade devices, not home-user ones. But their ease of use is better than home-user models anyway because of the XML config and copy-and-paste.
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