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[oldfogy]

Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally each year, costing record labels billions of pounds in lost CD sales.

I never have and never will buy a music CD or Movie DVD and I never sell anything that I download, so they lose nothing from me.

What Virgin Media will lose is my £50.00 p/m (£600 p/a)  Telephone, Television and Broadband fees, should they instigate this policy.

I would urge all Virgin Media customers to fight back by cancelling all their contracts in protest, then lets see how they like it. 

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I wonder if by any chance "Virgin Records/Music" & "Virgin Media" have anything in common.

[Floydoid]

That reads like something out of 1984.

[mr_chris]

>> The BPI has teams of technicians to trace illegal music downloading to individual accounts

I guess they mean honeypots then... I've often wondered about the legality of honeypots themselves... does it not count as deception even if it is used to find someone who is breaking the law?

[kitz]

>> I guess they mean honeypots then... I've often wondered about the legality of honeypots themselves

Me too - its a form of enticement IMHO

[oldfogy]

I know it's not really the same thing but it may also be related.
 Virgin Media are due to upgrade all us 4Mb packages up to 10Mb.

Yes that certainly sounds good PR etc, the only thing being for some of us we will not be able to use it, so what good is that to the minority of us?

"Download a movie faster" so I can get chucked off quicker. 

[soms]

News article on the BBC News page today:

Policing internet 'not ISP's job'

As much as we might disaprove of CPW approach to selling broadband, at least they have taken the lead by telling the BPI (UK music industry body) where to shove its request to ban users who download music.

This made me twitch with frustration...

But the BPI said internet firms need to educate their customers not to steal music.

How on earth that is possible I don't know, perhaps another article is needed entitled "Educating internet users 'not ISP's job' "?

[oldfogy]

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=1756.0

Might I direct people also to look at the above thread in case they missed it.
Unfortunately we have two threads basically on the same topic.

However, if this is Carphone Warehouse's stance on the situation, then I don't think they will be rated as:
the third largest ISP.................... because it won't be long before they are NUMBER ONE.

But Charles Dunstone of Carphone Warehouse, which runs the TalkTalk broadband service, is refusing.
He said it is not his job to be an internet policeman.

Eat your heart out Virgin Media, or should I say, "Virgin Music"

[soms]

 

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=1756.0

Might I direct people also to look at the above thread in case they missed it.
Unfortunately we have two threads basically on the same topic.

I was aware of the other topic but thought since there was a choice of the two and this didn't regard Virgin Media, it might be more appropriate to post it here. Decisions, decisions 

[mr_chris]

> what good is that to the minority of us?

No-one cares about the minority - you are insignificant and do not matter - you are just a number, and your ISP would sooner be rid of you rather than keep you as a customer

*By the way - tongue is planted FIRMLY in cheek - just in case anyone doesn't realise *

Lol - also just reminded me when we went to see a Greenday concert at the MEN arena - about 14,000 people all singing in unison "We wanna be the minority..." - oh, the irony

Ahem - naughty corner for me - just took the thread off track 

[oldfogy]

It's true, THE TRUTH ALWAYS HURTS.  Phone Number, Account Number

But time will tell whether certain ISP's are just playing lip-service or not.

[Floydoid]

However, TT seem to be taking a different line: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7329801.stm

[soms]

We have a bit of an overlap here between two topics 

http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=1504.msg59686#msg59686

[oldfogy]

Yes, it's getting confusing as both threads are basically the same topic.

Although not my thread, dare I suggest this one be closed?

With a link to the other thread?

[roseway]

I've merged the two threads. Hopefully it still makes sense.

[Floydoid]

Europe it would seem are taking a more liberal view:

in a narrow vote MEPs backed an amendment to the report which said net bans conflicted with "civil liberties and human rights".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7342135.stm

I think this debate is going to run and run.