I give my credit to 'Kitz' in this post
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php?topic=14989.0When she said "
@kitz Do however check for logins very carefully. Its possible that the old owners login may still be entered in the router. So in this case BT would be sending you to the ISP entered in the SSB log and Eclipse RADIUS then saying 'no that login name and password isnt one of ours'. You'd have sync, but no internet. "
So I set out to Delete present modem details by holding the reset button on the back for 60 sec's, then also re-install different firmware, I did this process 3 times without configuring the details.
Next I started configuring it, but as I got to the Basic>WAN setting there was in the password box about six dots to suggest there was still some info not getting deleted so I filled the password box with 111111111111 them back-spaced them to remove then filled it with 000000000000000 did the same twice more , then put in my login details, tested it and
IT WORKED Now I will try to get some stats.
A speed test showed 4.36M down and 700k up
that's the best I have ever had for my long line.