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Author Topic: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL  (Read 145850 times)

les-70

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #225 on: December 06, 2014, 05:30:23 PM »

  I don't have access at the moment but from memory that screen is all set at its defaults with the exception that I manually choose channel 6 as I know that is optimum in my location.  i.e. away from neighbors frequencies.
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #226 on: December 06, 2014, 06:07:06 PM »

Strange I try Asus USB N10 150Mbps and try Billion wifi again and got better speedtest now:


I think the TP link 450Mbps on PCI in something wrong with it (limit speed of no more 40Mbps) how odd?

Thanks les-70

I use Asus USB N10 wireless for now.
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renluop

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2014, 11:34:10 AM »

It's such a simple query to show my ignorance! ;D

But when configuring the system log what are the server details to input? :-[
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loonylion

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2014, 01:52:02 PM »

It's such a simple query to show my ignorance! ;D

But when configuring the system log what are the server details to input? :-[

none, those details are if you use a remote syslog server, which I very much doubt you do. You need to enable local syslog, not remote.
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renluop

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2014, 06:25:16 PM »

Analysis correct! Thank you! :) Behind it all is that last evening and this morning, after I had started everything up on return from a 5 day break at my daughter's, there were several incidences of the screen blacking out, and extremely difficult to recover through router and all connections looking ok. Final failure had me ensuring ALL were so, and it was the monitor power cable which seemed OK until I yanked it out and shoved it back in.

I thought that the syslog should have contained something of what had gone on :-\
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paulsmith109

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #230 on: January 11, 2015, 11:16:27 AM »

I have just purchased an 8800NL to use in place of my HG612B and I am getting no improvement in synch speed - in fact approx 1mb slower which is disappointing.
I`m sure I have it set up correctly so perhaps I `ve just been unlucky.
Would you be prepared to either post or email to me a copy of the 038 DSL driver to try, as possibly my line does not like the 039g version.
I originally synched at 80/20 on initial install with a DS margin of 12.5dB, but now I `m down to 66/20 after crosstalk hit me with  a standard DS margon of 6.1dB.
Many thanks!!




I installed my Billion 8800NL last night and it has not gone as well as I would like, the rate has been dropping.

Below are my stats, is there anything of concern? I down graded this morning to version 2.32d.dm2

Should I revert to an Openreach Modem, I have both the ECI and the HG612

adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 25159 Kbps, Downstream rate = 72608 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 19999 Kbps, Downstream rate = 73298 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:          Profile 17a
TPS-TC:                 PTM Mode
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        6.1             15.1
Attn(dB):        0.0             0.0
Pwr(dBm):        12.5            6.6

                        VDSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           18              26
B:              239             237
M:              1               1
T:              22              42
R:              0               16
S:              0.1042          0.3781
L:              18424           5374
D:              1               1
I:              240             127
N:              240             254

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
OHF:            5388094         2343565
OHFErr:         107             11
RS:             0               3896951
RSCorr:         0               48
RSUnCorr:       0               0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            222             0
OCD:            1               0
LCD:            1               0
Total Cells:    1311047388              0
Data Cells:     955863          0
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     0               0

ES:             27              7
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
AS:             9303

                        Bearer 0
INP:            0.00            0.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          0               0
PER:            1.72            3.98
OR:             111.22          64.22
AgR:            73409.24        20063.54

Bitswap:        909/909         9/9

Total time = 2 hours 35 min 29 sec
FEC:            0               48
CRC:            107             11
ES:             27              7
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 29 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            14              0
ES:             2               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            0               7
CRC:            3               5
ES:             3               1
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 2 hours 35 min 29 sec
FEC:            0               48
CRC:            107             11
ES:             27              7
SES:            0               0
UAS:            26              26
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 2 hours 35 min 1 sec
FEC:            0               48
CRC:            107             11
ES:             27              7
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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Chrysalis

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #231 on: January 11, 2015, 02:44:15 PM »

did you check your stats right before turning off the hg612? specifically was its attainable higher than synce speed and snrm over 6db?

If yes then I guess the billion for your line conditions isnt as good, but yes the older firmware may help you.

the download link is on their forums.
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paulsmith109

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #232 on: January 17, 2015, 09:29:59 AM »

did you check your stats right before turning off the hg612? specifically was its attainable higher than synce speed and snrm over 6db?

If yes then I guess the billion for your line conditions isnt as good, but yes the older firmware may help you.

the download link is on their forums.

Thanks, but the forum won`t send me the post registration email so  I can`t log-on as a new member and hence cannot access the firmware file.
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #233 on: January 17, 2015, 06:06:38 PM »

And you moaning about 1Mb lower as 1Mb is nothing worse to be honest! Just be happy with your Billion 8800NL. It's still the great broadcom chipset.
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paulsmith109

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #234 on: January 18, 2015, 10:34:04 AM »

 ;D
And you moaning about 1Mb lower as 1Mb is nothing worse to be honest! Just be happy with your Billion 8800NL. It's still the great broadcom chipset.

Hi there `max`

Don`t get me wrong - I `m not moaning. I agree it`s a great router with lots of fantastic features.
Ever since being hit by crosstalk I `ve been trying to squeeze every ounce of speed from my connection.
Just a little bit puzzled why I `m not seeing the increase in synch that is widely reported here.

General question about the 8800NL: does it definitely support `g-vectoring` out of the box?
I hear from some quarters that it DOES but can see no mention of vectoring support in the product`s specification list.
Will it need a future firmware upgrade? Perhaps you or Kitz could confirm?
Many thanks!!
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les-70

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #235 on: January 18, 2015, 11:35:27 AM »

  I also did not notice VDSL2 G.vector (G.993.5) in the spec but they replied to a query.   

"I have forwarded your feature request over to our engineers.
Regarding vectoring, the 8800NL already supports vectoring.
Thanks
Best Regards,
Billion Support Team"

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Chrysalis

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #236 on: January 18, 2015, 08:10:15 PM »

its not visible in the telnet commands or spec sheets, but my guess is if a new firmware is required billion will make it, they are good at supporting products.
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simoncraddock

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #237 on: January 18, 2015, 08:52:56 PM »

The 8800nl does not support G.Vectoring ( G.993.5) according to the compliance list, unless it's just not enabled in the current firmware

Full-rate ANSI T1.413 Issue 2
G.993.2 (VDSL2, supporting profile 8a, 8b, 8c, 8d, 12a, 12b, 17a)
G.992.1 (G.dmt)
G.992.2 (G.lite)
G.992.3 (G.dmt.bis)
G.992.3 Annex M (ADSL2 Annex M)
G.992.4 (G.lite.bis)
G.992.5 (G.dmt.bis plus)
G.992.5 Annex M (ADSL2+ Annex M)
G.994.1 (G.hs)
VDSL2 band plan: 997 and 998

I was told that BT are currently using the device in tests but wouldn't confirm if that included vectoring support.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 09:18:19 PM by simoncraddock »
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #238 on: January 19, 2015, 01:26:06 PM »

Billion 8800NL does support vectoring! Even thought it doesn't add on their site. The techinical support from billion say that 8800NL is vectoring support ready.
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adslmax

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #239 on: January 20, 2015, 06:20:01 PM »

Billion UK Support
   
10:57 (7 hours ago)
      
to me
Hi ****,

8800NL do support vectoring but we are not aware of vectoring being officially supported by ISP right now.

Best Regards,

Billion Support Team

http://www.billion.uk.com/esupport
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