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Author Topic: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL  (Read 146140 times)

roseway

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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2014, 10:27:29 AM »

Or http://www.billion.uk.com/esupport/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/362/107/bipac-8800nl-232ddh14-firmware.

Billion usually recommend that you upgrade with the default configuration initially, then set up the device from scratch afterwards. But it shouldn't do any harm to save the current configuration then reload it after the upgrade. I haven't got the 8800NL running at the moment, but on the Billion 7800DXL the place to do this is Configuration --> System --> Backup/Update.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2014, 10:51:11 AM »

I'm a little confused as the links refer to  version  2.32d.dh14 whilst I mentioned my present A2pv6F038j.d24h and I found a reference to what seems to be a newer A2pv6F039g1d24m.

To confuse me further I have also found in my status page a reference to software version
2.32d.dm2. Naif moi,"dh precedes dm" further discohfusion therapy experts forward!

BTW still ADSL 2+
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2014, 11:14:35 AM »

The firmware version 2.32d.dh14 is the latest 8800NL code for the entire router/modem system and contains
the latest binary DSL driver version A2pv6F039g1.d24m as well as wireless driver code and web page support.
The important part of the DSL driver name is that 038j goes to 039g and this is embedded in the firmware release.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2014, 11:42:41 AM »

Thanks! I'm too easily confused! Would it be necessary prefereable to do the installation off line, antivirus disabled?
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2014, 01:43:20 AM »

When upgrading a modem/router's firmware it is always sensible to disconnect the device from the xDSL.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2014, 10:14:42 AM »

I upgraded my 8800NL to 2.32d.dh14 yesterday, not because I had any dissatisfaction with the previous .dm2 , but just to be current. The upgrade worked fine and after restoring the backup config settings file, all connected fine. The stats immediately showed an increase in downstream power from the usual 17.2 to 17.4 and the sync rate remained almost the same at 3225 (used to be 3232).....but the max linerate dropped from its previous 3800 to 3580. OK, no problem, gave it 24 hours to bed-in. Oh dear, the usual extreme stability of the SNRM - previously varying during daytime by +/- 0.1db now varied by +/- 0.3db from minute-to-minute and the CRC error rate tripled from 20/min to 75/min (average over a 24 hour period.....a low 5/m in daytime and higher 250/m during dark hours).

So today I've reverted to firmware 2.32d.dm4 ..... I don't have a copy of the original 2.32d.dm2 but I understand the difference between .dm2 and .dm4 is purely cosmetic .... and lo and behold it is now performing brilliantly as it had done up till yesterday. Stats are power 17.2db, SNRM 5.1, Sync Rate 3225, Max Rate 3812 and SNRM variation is +/- 0.1db

So for my particular router on my specific very long line (57.5db on ADSL2), the older firmware is the better choice. It may be a different case for other lines and scenarios though.

The 8800NL is by far and away the very best modem/router out of the 130+ others I've experimented with since 2008 and I'm so happy with it that I've ended my quest for the best  I can find.......I've found it!
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2014, 10:42:04 AM »

So zip file is downloaded, but where do I extract it to? I see the file is .afw too so what to use to open?
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2014, 11:22:49 AM »

Just unzip it and save the .afw file anywhere convenient. Then go to the 8800NL browser interface and navigate to the firmware upgrade page (possibly Configuration --> System --> Firmware Upgrade) and press the Browse button to find the .afw file which you saved.

Remember to save your configuration first.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2014, 11:39:51 AM »

Info: Billion Support have now made the earlier 2.32d.dm2 firmware available on  the Billion Forum in case anyone chooses to revert to it.
They have a truly excellent support service......speedy, accurate, friendly and ultra-helpful.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2014, 12:30:09 PM »

Just unzip it and save the .afw file anywhere convenient. Then go to the 8800NL browser interface and navigate to the firmware upgrade page (possibly Configuration --> System --> Firmware Upgrade) and press the Browse button to find the .afw file which you saved.

Remember to save your configuration first.
Soon after I posted I found the info. Thanks tho. :) All is now done. I had saved my old configuration but did not need it, as you can now select to use either default or existing settings.

Nothing particular on speed etc

adsl info --stats
adsl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason:    8000
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:    Upstream rate = 888 Kbps, Downstream rate = 8940 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 888 Kbps, Downstream rate = 8147 Kbps

Link Power State:       L0
Mode:                   ADSL2+ Annex A
TPS-TC:                 ATM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:                U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:            No Defect
Training Status:        Showtime
                Down            Up
SNR (dB):        3.1             8.5
Attn(dB):        46.5            27.2
Pwr(dBm):        0.0             12.7

                        ADSL2 framing
                        Bearer 0
MSGc:           59              10
B:              126             13
M:              1               8
T:              2               9
R:              10              16
S:              0.4968          4.0000
L:              2206            256
D:              64              8

                        Counters
                        Bearer 0
SF:             155187          139178
SFErr:          11              0
RS:             20174106                2505220
RSCorr:         2507            494
RSUnCorr:       163             0

                        Bearer 0
HEC:            58              0
OCD:            0               0
LCD:            0               0
Total Cells:    48152013                5238923
Data Cells:     1428274         93700
Drop Cells:     0
Bit Errors:     6816            0

ES:             7               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            1733            1733
AS:             2506

                        Bearer 0
INP:            1.00            2.00
INPRein:        0.00            0.00
delay:          8               8
PER:            16.14           18.00
OR:             32.20           7.11
AgR:            8148.08 892.51

Bitswap:        701/701         11/11

Total time = 1 hours 10 min 39 sec
FEC:            2507            494
CRC:            11              0
ES:             7               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            1733            1733
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 15 minutes time = 10 min 39 sec
FEC:            152             243
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:            365             168
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Latest 1 day time = 1 hours 10 min 39 sec
FEC:            2507            494
CRC:            11              0
ES:             7               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            1733            1733
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:            0               0
CRC:            0               0
ES:             0               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
Since Link time = 41 min 45 sec
FEC:            2507            494
CRC:            11              0
ES:             7               0
SES:            0               0
UAS:            0               0
LOS:            0               0
LOF:            0               0
LOM:            0               0
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2014, 08:12:17 PM »

Right, I've finally finished work with this router - my upstream sync rate has gone down yet again due to all the stopping and starting testing stuff, so I'm now synching at 778KB/Sec up.... not happy, but with today's upgrade to the latest firmware I'm hoping for this to improve significantly. I guess if not, its nothing to do with the modem but crosstalk or unacceptable DLM.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2014, 08:31:56 PM »

Right guys, I just ordered Billion Bipac 8800NL today arrived tomorrow before 12pm next day business. I can't wait to test this out. My first ever using Billion. The past I always use Netgear, Asus, BT Openreach Modem and now Billion Bipac 8800NL. I hope I won't regret it.  ;) :angel:

Wish me luck. I will updated latest firmware 1st thing before plugging into VDSL line.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2014, 09:46:24 AM »

What are the settings step by step for connect VDSL2 with plusnet?

The instruction is too complicated for all different settings for ADSL2/VDSL2 etc. I was looking up kitz routers for any screenshot step by step for VDSL2 setting connection but there are none for this model. Billion Bipac 8800NL
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2014, 10:02:59 AM »

I've prepared mine for VDSL2 by using the Quick Start setup and just filling in the necessary details as I went through it. I used Kitz' guide to setting up the ZyXEL VMG8324-B10A as a reference for what to enter in the options.
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Re: BiIlion Bipac 8800NL
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2014, 10:08:24 AM »

Ok thanks. Still waiting for my new Billion bipac 8800nl to be delivered and to start off. I will post screenshot before and after to compare the speed on openreach modem and billion router.
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