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NewtronStar

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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2013, 10:56:15 AM »

Can confirm my Interleaving has dropped from 1215 to 591 early this morning, also with a higher sync thats 14 days after updates came in, but can my line hold this sync before the DLM raises the Interleaving Depth again  :-\

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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2013, 01:17:37 PM »


It is the new firmware version, but your band plans don't match what others are seeing, so it looks like only a 'partial' update?

My cabinet still hasn't updated (ECI) though my modem was a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2013, 02:26:39 PM »

newtonstar post your --stats output and I will give an opinion if DLM will react.
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2013, 02:55:54 PM »

hhmm, I would of thought you would have more download speed than that, my line is virtually the same as yours, but im syncing at 51meg down and 8meg up, surley 21.8 attenuation isn't that much of a difference to 24

xdslcmd info --stats
xdslcmd: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Retrain Reason:   0
Last initialization procedure status:   0
Max:   Upstream rate = 8548 Kbps, Downstream rate = 58100 Kbps
Bearer:   0, Upstream rate = 8637 Kbps, Downstream rate = 51911 Kbps

Link Power State:   L0
Mode:         VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL2 Profile:      Profile 17a
TPS-TC:         PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis:      U:ON /D:ON
Line Status:      No Defect
Training Status:   Showtime
      Down      Up
SNR (dB):    5.6       6.2
Attn(dB):    21.8       0.0
Pwr(dBm):    12.2       6.3
         VDSL2 framing
         Bearer 0
MSGc:      18      52
B:      51      237
M:      1      1
T:      64      33
R:      12      16
S:      0.0319      0.8751
L:      16064      2322
D:      1015      1
I:      64      127
N:      64      254
         Counters
         Bearer 0
OHF:      8631172      62193
OHFErr:      48      73
RS:      2209456302      3465978
RSCorr:      210451      97
RSUnCorr:   606      0

         Bearer 0
HEC:      84      0
OCD:      3      0
LCD:      3      0
Total Cells:   1764136143      0
Data Cells:   7091186      0
Drop Cells:   0
Bit Errors:   0      0

ES:      14      65
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
AS:      17675

         Bearer 0
INP:      3.00      0.00
INPRein:   0.00      0.00
delay:      8      0
PER:      2.04      14.49
OR:      93.75      32.00
AgR:      52004.85   8669.06

Bitswap:   14479/14480      1842/1844

Total time = 4 hours 56 min 0 sec
FEC:      211583      97
CRC:      48      73
ES:      14      65
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 15 minutes time = 11 min 0 sec
FEC:      17048      0
CRC:      0      2
ES:      0      2
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC:      21329      1
CRC:      0      1
ES:      0      1
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Latest 1 day time = 4 hours 56 min 0 sec
FEC:      211583      97
CRC:      48      73
ES:      14      65
SES:      0      0
UAS:      25      25
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
FEC:      0      0
CRC:      0      0
ES:      0      0
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
Since Link time = 4 hours 55 min 35 sec
FEC:      211583      97
CRC:      48      73
ES:      14      65
SES:      0      0
UAS:      0      0
LOS:      0      0
LOF:      0      0
LOM:      0      0
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2013, 04:12:24 PM »

newtonstar post your --stats output and I will give an opinion if DLM will react.

Which one the current stats or ongoing as i don't have a full 24 hour graph as i am frugal with electric bills  :blush: so heres the current stats.


hhmm, I would of thought you would have more download speed than that

I am about 800 meters from the cab so that could be the reason for the Max attainable DS of 35000 and don't think I can use the higher tones in the D3 band.
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2013, 05:47:32 PM »

<snip> and 8meg up, surley 21.8 attenuation isn't that much of a difference to 24

Please remember the units, dB. A logarithmic ration. So although ( 24 - 21.8 ) is indeed 2.2, what does that signify as a logarithm (base 10)?

About a factor of three in absolute values, if I remember correctly.  :-\
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2013, 06:08:29 PM »

<snip> and 8meg up, surley 21.8 attenuation isn't that much of a difference to 24

Please remember the units, dB. A logarithmic ration. So although ( 24 - 21.8 ) is indeed 2.2, what does that signify as a logarithm (base 10)?

About a factor of three in absolute values, if I remember correctly.  :-\

Hello BC look I thinking of turning off the modem as it's looking like errored seconds are rising and it seems like my line only has a 2 day window before the interleaving is increased by Miss DLM
i'll upload a monty and wait for reply.

for some reason my line does not like to sync to anything above 29000mbps and when it gets to the 30000mbps the DLM hits me why has this been going on since day one on FTTC  >:(
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 06:15:11 PM by NewtronStar »
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2013, 06:15:34 PM »

newtonstar post your --stats output and I will give an opinion if DLM will react.

Which one the current stats or ongoing as i don't have a full 24 hour graph as i am frugal with electric bills  :blush: so heres the current stats.


hhmm, I would of thought you would have more download speed than that

I am about 800 meters from the cab so that could be the reason for the Max attainable DS of 35000 and don't think I can use the higher tones in the D3 band.

do as boe323 did, since BE's tool ddoesnt run it.

login to the modem via telnet.

run

xdslcmd info --stats

paste the output.
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2013, 06:32:21 PM »


do as boe323 did, since BE's tool ddoesnt run it.

login to the modem via telnet.

run

xdslcmd info --stats

paste the output.

You meen the Plink log from BE1 current stats  ;)
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2013, 06:48:12 PM »

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. . . to anything above 29000mbps and when it gets to the 30000mbps . . .
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Fur rises! Units!  >:(

Either 29 Mbps and 30 Mbps or 29000 kbps and 30000 kbps.  :P

Having stated that, the fur settles back and b*cat plods off to attend to his food bowl.  :yum: 
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 06:57:34 PM »

<snip>
. . . to anything above 29000mbps and when it gets to the 30000mbps . . .
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Fur rises! Units!  >:(

Either 29 Mbps and 30 Mbps or 29000 kbps and 30000 kbps.  :P

Having stated that, the fur settles back and b*cat plods off to attend to his food bowl.  :yum:

Yeah BC 29000kbps and 30000kbps now go and give that scratch pole a good seeing to  :D

PS BC now have another kitten 3 months old and don't get to much sleep these nights of all the kittens we had this one is mad and look forward to neuter day  :no:
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2013, 07:24:32 PM »

<snip>
. . . to anything above 29000mbps and when it gets to the 30000mbps . . .
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Fur rises! Units!  >:(

Either 29 Mbps and 30 Mbps or 29000 kbps and 30000 kbps.  :P

Having stated that, the fur settles back and b*cat plods off to attend to his food bowl.  :yum: 

yeah that has it.

your FEC is in the millions and over 7k CRC in 24 hours, doesnt look great.  Although not necessarily aweful either.

You got an older plink from the higher interleaving?
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2013, 07:57:14 PM »

<snip>
. . . to anything above 29000mbps and when it gets to the 30000mbps . . .
<snip>

Fur rises! Units!  >:(

Either 29 Mbps and 30 Mbps or 29000 kbps and 30000 kbps.  :P

Having stated that, the fur settles back and b*cat plods off to attend to his food bowl.  :yum: 

yeah that has it.

your FEC is in the millions and over 7k CRC in 24 hours, doesnt look great.  Although not necessarily aweful either.

You got an older plink from the higher interleaving?

The DS errored seconds was high at 500 per hour normally I would see 368 in 10 days so turned off HG612 for 30 minutes and lost some sync 30221kbps down to 28670 kbps but DS SNR has increased to 6.4db which is good for the evenings.

So what seems to be the problem is the retrain reason 1 happens at 4am thats the quiet time for ADSL and FTTC and come the evening the SNR starts to lower below 5db and attainable line rate also starts to lower which in turn starts to give me alot or errors, in a nutshell my resync should be at 6pm not 4am  :(

EDIT: the Bandplan updates have made no difference that I can see on my line after 14 days  ;)

Edit the upload does seem to have increased since bandplan changes.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 10:22:44 PM by NewtronStar »
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 08:29:45 PM »

The DS errored seconds was high at 500 per hour normally I would see 368 in 10 days so turned off HG612 for 30 minutes and lost some sync 30221kbps down to 28670 kbps but DS SNR has increased to 6.4db which is good for the evenings.

So what seems to be the problem is the retrain reason 1 happens at 4am thats the quiet time for ADSL and FTTC and come the evening the SNR starts to lower below 5db and attainable line rate also starts to lower which in turn starts to give me alot or errors, in a nutshell my resync should be at 6pm not 4am  :(

EDIT: the Bandplan updates have made no difference that I can see on my line after 14 days  ;)

Perhaps a bit extreme, and assuming if DLM re-syncs you that the setting persists (I imagine it would), you could try capping your sync rate (only available on the very recent HG612 firmware).

For example: xdslcmd configure1 --maxDataRate 26000 5500 31500

The above example would re-sync your connection at a capped downstream rate of approximately 26,000kbps and a capped upstream rate of approximately 5,500kbps. This should give you some SNR breathing room and as such help reduce the errors. I tested this last night (the --maxDataRate) and it worked on my FTTC connection. Presumably the setting would last until a reboot or if you did xdslcmd configure --xyzparameterhere. Note that xdslcmd configure1 --xyzparameterhere doesn't cause all other unspecified parameters to go back to their current/default setting.

Another setting I've not had an opportunity to try is --Ginp, I'm hoping someone else on this forum can test that on a VDSL2 connection to see if my theory about xdslcmd configure1 --Ginp 0x0 can disable/unsupport the capability of having impulse noise protection on the downstream and upstream.
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Re: Connection stats changes since HG612 firmware update
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 09:26:18 PM »


Perhaps a bit extreme, and assuming if DLM re-syncs you that the setting persists (I imagine it would), you could try capping your sync rate (only available on the very recent HG612 firmware).

For example: xdslcmd configure1 --maxDataRate 26000 5500 31500

Thankyou thats is extreme and if it works at least I have more control over my line, as the DLM/DSLAM/MSAN seems to think my line can go faster but then says sorry you can't and still wondering if the DATA socket is confusing it's electronic brain as somehow I am loosing 2000kbps inside my premises.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 09:32:08 PM by NewtronStar »
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