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Author Topic: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?  (Read 8223 times)

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SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« on: March 02, 2013, 11:48:47 AM »

Hi,
Anybody any experience of using cheap (or expensive) SATA to IDE adaptors?
I see lots on ebay around £2, whereas they are priced around £10 to £15 from the usual PC bits suppliers like CCL Online, ebuyer.

Need it to connect old IDE DVD to new all SATA mobo.
But think £10 for adaptor too dear, might as well buy new DVD drive for a smidge more.

Cheers,
Peter
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 12:02:53 PM »

Geep
I used this one for transferring data when installing a new mobo in May last year. 2 in 1 IDE to SATA / SATA to IDE Converter Adapter WAY 40 PIN CONNECTOR CABLE ( 310382174627 ) It still seems to be available on ebay for about £3 or so inc postage.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 12:27:16 PM »

I got one on the old PC for connecting an old drive to SATA mobo.  It was a few years ago now so I cant recall exact price, but Im pretty sure it was only a couple of quid.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 12:35:40 PM »

@Tony @kitz - thanks for that - nice to know these adapters can work.

I note there's a 160GB limit on the one Tony used -  http://tinyurl.com/bflmvqt
Should be OK for DVD, but I also wanted to pull data off an old 250GB disk.
Must check carefully if others specify a disk size limit.
The one I was looking at looks similar http://tinyurl.com/bbqrqmx (at least in the 2nd picture) and says: Support IDE drive size larger than 240GB. How much larger, I wonder.

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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 12:53:26 PM »

Geep
I hadn't even realised there was a limit! I've just checked and the two IDE drives I transferred from were both 160GB so it does work up to its rated limit.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 01:47:14 PM »

You could just use a USB->IDE/SATA adaptor.

They cost anything from £10 upwards (seems to be plenty around the £15 mark) and shouldn't have any "limits" - I've used one with 2TB disks.

You'll probably find that long-term the USB adaptor is more useful.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 06:02:40 PM »

Need it to connect old IDE DVD to new all SATA mobo.
But think £10 for adaptor too dear, might as well buy new DVD drive for a smidge more.

Quite honestly, I would just buy an new DVD drive and connect it via the native interface rather than through a converter.  :)
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 06:46:39 PM »

The USB adaptor is an interesting proposition in its own right though. I can think of several times in recent years when I wanted to quickly check out a drive which I'd found in the back of a cupboard, and the USB adaptor provides a simple solution for that.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 07:23:16 PM »

Something that should also be pointed out when using the IDE/SATA converters.   They can add quite a bit to the length of the existing drive... something to be considered if you are short on space in the case...  as I later found out as it stopped the particular drive being racked in the bay where I wanted to originally put it.
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 09:35:03 PM »

The USB kit is useful for restoring "headless" (ie no keyboard/mouse/monitor) stuff like Windows Home Server as it requires no drivers.

It's also useful for when you find an ancient disk - you'd be amazed the stuff you'll find on your old disks :)
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 10:39:59 PM »

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you'd be amazed the stuff you'll find on your old disks

Yes indeedy :)
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 04:32:05 PM »

USB adaptor sounds interesting. Hadn't thought of that. New mobo should have USB3, so maybe quite speedy.
I need to get stuff off old PATA drives (not backed up, of course).
And Kitz's warning about size/length is noted.

At the moment am sidetracked - building a dummy load for the PSU. Am not 100% sure the PSU is good.
Noload reading for volts are sensible, but some just outside 10% limits. Will try it under a mimimumish load to make the switchmode electronics happy.

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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 08:02:17 PM »

...and finally...
1/ bought a new SATA DVD RW drive so I can ditch the PATA DVD
2/ bought a bidirectional IDE/SATA converter which claims to be good up to 1T @ £2.59 inc p&p to try to recover stuff from old 250G and 20G PATA disks. Very cheap and it doesn't need drivers.
3/ decided against USB/SATA as didn't want external connections
4/ thought about a PCI card with IDE socket (plus additional SATA sockets). All these cards use VIA VT6421A chipset. But decided against as it needs drivers, and driver support seems limited - seems no Win7, Win8 and doubtful about Linux

Have now noticed that the newly ordered mobo only has UEFI BIOS.
Suppose my existing Windows, Linux and legacy grub (on SATAs) will bork at that... ...will be an interesting learning experience...
Plus then trying to recover stuff from PATAs where some partitions seems to have vanished - even more interesting.

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Peter
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 10:25:20 PM »

Those VIA cards are very slow too.   One alternative that costs about £5 (from China) is the Promise TX2plus PCI card.  It's a 3Gbps SATA card with a single PATA connector too.   It's about two to three times as fast as the VIA cards.   Maxtor do their own rebrand using the Promise controller.



Good luck with whatever you're doing!  ???

cheers, a
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Re: SATA to IDE adaptor - anybody used them ?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 11:21:49 PM »

One alternative that costs about £5 (from China) is the Promise TX2plus PCI card.  It's a 3Gbps SATA card with a single PATA connector too.   It's about two to three times as fast as the VIA cards.   Maxtor do their own rebrand using the Promise controller.

Curious question : At what point does ye Olde Fashioned PCI bus become a limiting factor here?

Looking at USB 3 cards, Gigabit Ethernet or 3Gbps SATA , won't they all exceed the bandwidth of PCI?  Obviously, I'd hope they would work ok, but be limited in speed by the throughput of the PCI bus, not of their native medium.

I recently bought a Gigabit PCI-e ethernet card, imagining that putting it in a plain PCI slot would be a bottleneck.  But now I've used my only PCI-e slot, and what if I want a USB 3 card too?

Am I just being daft, and PCI can handle it?

Ian
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