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Beta Testers Needed
« on: December 04, 2007, 05:32:09 PM »

As you know Im trying to teach myself php/sql...  and the next stage of my project (this bit has taken a few months and much hair tearing) is about to be released.  Yeah OK I know I went in at the deep end again because the backend system is quite large.... but its certainly one way of learning something  :lol:

Theres still bits and pieces that need tidying up - and some minor cosmetic work/prettifying ...  but I need some help with beta testing please.

The one area right now where I see there may be problems is with IP blocks. 
I think Ive managed to get hold of most of the main UK ISPs, but there may be some gaps (cant find O2's range yet).. 
and its one of those things that I wont know how it behaves really until its unleashed to the public.:/


So...  with baited breath... lets see how it behaves.

btw ignore all the nasty red print-
When the rating page once it goes "live" will only allow you to rate once per month - but that function is switched off atm so you can test more than once.
Put what you want in the database -  rate more than once - play with the stars if you like - It will all be cleared and restarted before it goes live.

Errors, comments, suggestions appreciated.

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/ISP_rate.php
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/ISP_ratings.php
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/ISP_rating.php
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/ISP_ratings_compare.php

* kitz hopes it dont go all pear shaped :D
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 05:40:44 PM »

I may be being stupid, but I can't get the rating thing to work.
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 05:45:56 PM »

I may be being stupid, but I can't get the rating thing to work.


This page?
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/ISP_rate.php

Does it pick up your ISP ok?
At what stage does it go wrong?

Click on the stars to set the rating - ie 3/4/5
Then enter a short comment
Click submit

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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 05:52:40 PM »

I'll take a look later - well probably early tomorrow.

Re O2 - try looking for ranges owned by "Avatar Broadband Networks". That's Be - or what was originally Be prior to Telefonica buying them. I don't believe you will find any IP ranges allocated to O2 other than for mobiles.

Edit - search for AS35228. That is Be/O2's autonomous system number.
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 05:56:32 PM »

ty rizla

Yeah I picked up Bes netnames as AVATAR-GB and also UK-AVATARBROADBAND%  its O2's own network (if any) that Im having probs finding. :(
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 05:58:08 PM »

>> Edit - search for AS35228. That is Be/O2's autonomous system number.

Just seen your edit - ty I'll have a look later.
Need to go out now - but I'll be back in a couple of hours and look into it then.
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 05:58:38 PM »

This is what I get:

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Unfortunately we have been unable to identify your ISP from your ISP address. This could either be due to:... etc

So effectively it's not recognising Tiscali.
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 05:58:53 PM »

They don't have one - well not one allocated to "O2". Telefonica is your best bet but their net ranges aren't exactly well documented.

Edit - what datasource are you using to determine netranges?
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 06:03:34 PM by rizla »
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2007, 06:03:21 PM »

okies floydy - ty I'll have a look at yours later.
Possibly a block from elsewhere that I need to manually add.

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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 06:12:49 PM »

Hi Kitz,just rated my ISP,the pages look very good and every thing worked ok for me.  :)
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2007, 06:57:18 PM »

It all worked fine here. I'm not sure that you need to insist on a comment. I had nothing to add to the ratings so just put zzz in the comments box, and it looks as though several other people did much the same.
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2007, 07:30:08 PM »

Hi, all seemed to work for me.

Looks good.

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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2007, 09:48:10 PM »

>> Edit - what datasource are you using to determine netranges?

Querying RIPE for the Netname - Couldnt find any decent lists (without forking out a fortune).
So the hard way. :/  The Netname then resolves to the ISP from a list it should build up over time.
I've got to thank Chris for helping me and pointing me in the right direction....  Without having a list or approaching ISPs then it was a bit of a hurdle.

Theres always going to be the odd ISP  (like Floydy's) that decide to put something silly down for a block which doesnt always immediately make them identifyable. eg

org:             ORG-TUL3-RIPE
netname:         UK-TELINCO-20070619

I had already picked up a few obscure ones such as Be's "avatar" .. and Videonetworks (another of Tiscali's) etc.

Hopefully Ive managed to identify most of the others and the database Ive created so far seems to be resolving most IPs to the ISP, I'm well aware that there will always be the odd block that I will have to manually assign.

The early days are probably going to be when stuff is missing and Im aware of that, - hence the beta period -  but it should be fairly easy for me to now add an block and associate it with a particular ISP. Touch wood it shouldnt take too long to build up a self supporting database
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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2007, 10:05:39 PM »

This is what I get:

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Unfortunately we have been unable to identify your ISP from your ISP address. This could either be due to:... etc

So effectively it's not recognising Tiscali.

It should recognise most of Tiscali's - eg when Tiscali declare themselves as say DSL-TISCALI-UK or VIDEONETWORKS... 

Its just unfortunate that the particular IP that theyve allocated you is showing as belonging to UK-TELINCO and they put down their organisation as TUL3-RIPE . Even the RDNS is showing as dynamic.dsl.as9105.com.  Its a bit hard to resolve something if the ISP doesnt declare who they are :/

I've manually added the block of IPs so it should now work.
The more people I get advising me that a particular block doesnt work - then I can soon add it and the system will work in future for others.
So if anyone does get any more like this please do let me know as it helps build up the database.

If it cant resolve an IP range it should automatically bring up a "we have been unable to identify your ISP from your ISP address" message with a direct contact link to advise me of the problem.

Thanks Floydy - you telling me helps me build up the list for future :)

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Re: Beta Testers Needed
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2007, 10:11:08 PM »

>>  I'm not sure that you need to insist on a comment.

I had thought about this - but wanted if possible to encourage people to do so.
- Aside from the fact a null comment breaks the table <td> output  :D
(reminds self to put something in for that - since its a formatting thing)

>> I had nothing to add to the ratings so just put zzz in the comments box,

Thats fine - the return/enter key or a couple of blank spaces will do

>>> and it looks as though several other people did much the same.

lol probably me doing "test" or ksljfsaf  :lol:
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