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Author Topic: Is take-up lower than hoped?  (Read 13641 times)

renluop

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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2012, 06:24:48 PM »

Plenty of activity = plenty of customers, I assume!

Might there not be other explanations? :-\ :D
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2012, 07:00:12 PM »

The Sore Knee's Syndrome, wish they could give these guys a padded mat like gardners use  ;)

Can a Lift and shift be done at the Cab ?
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2012, 08:59:31 PM »

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. . . see plenty of Openreach vans and engineers sitting on stools in front of the fibre cabs, I assume adding another customer.  The cab will be closed up again later on, but within a few days, I'll see another engineer working there, so I assume it's adding customers . . .

Next time you witness such an event, please take a close look. It should be within the existing PCP that the engineer is working to connect another customer and not the FTTC. (The latter would normally be installed, commissioned and then left alone.)

I'm sure that either Black Sheep or openreach dude will confirm that only specialist engineers are allowed to access the FTTC internals. 
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2012, 09:11:03 PM »

The Sore Knee's Syndrome, wish they could give these guys a padded mat like gardners use  ;)

Some engineers come equipped. See the two pictures, provided by Walter, below. The first is of PCP19 and the second of its twin FTTC, at commissioning time. Note the kneeling pads at the front of each. (Those "in the know" will correctly identify the location as Ewhurst, Surrey, which is served from the Cranleigh exchange.)
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 09:29:36 PM »

I think you maybe right BCAT because I never see the Large Green Cabinet open (FIBRE) only the smaller green one's  I see BTOR guys patching stuff.
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2012, 09:36:26 PM »

Every day I pass a cabinet that's had a 2nd fibre cabinet installed immediately next to it, and yes, thinking about it, it's the telephone cabinet that's often got an engineer sitting there wiring something up, not the fibre cabinet.

One a few miles away had a BT striped tent over it for around a month, until the other day!

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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2012, 09:46:25 PM »

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One a few miles away had a BT striped tent over it for around a month, until the other day!

Ah, that will be the one from which the engineering staff obtained their essential provisions -- tea, coffee, biscuits, bacon rolls, etc.  ;)
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 10:21:14 PM »

The Large Green one were Fibre ends its life then go's onto Copper or Aluminuium. Is the DLM in the Exchange or in the Fibre cabinet ?
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2012, 12:35:12 AM »

. . . Is the DLM in the Exchange or in the Fibre cabinet ?

If you are subscribed to a GEA FTTC service, then the DLM software executes on the DSLAM that is located within the fibre cabinet. If you are subscribed to any other broadband service, then the DLM executes on the DSLAM or MSAN that is located within the exchange building.  :)
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2012, 01:15:57 AM »

Something I did for maxdsl, but the DLM process is basically the same.
See bottom page for a description.


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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2012, 03:57:07 AM »

Thanks, Kitz. That is useful to see.
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2012, 09:24:19 PM »

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. . . see plenty of Openreach vans and engineers sitting on stools in front of the fibre cabs, I assume adding another customer.  The cab will be closed up again later on, but within a few days, I'll see another engineer working there, so I assume it's adding customers . . .

Next time you witness such an event, please take a close look. It should be within the existing PCP that the engineer is working to connect another customer and not the FTTC. (The latter would normally be installed, commissioned and then left alone.)

I'm sure that either Black Sheep or openreach dude will confirm that only specialist engineers are allowed to access the FTTC internals.

All Openreach work, (once the Fibre Cab has been commissioned) is only carried out in the original Cabinet, as B*Cat states. If we have a power fail, or a faulty card in the FTTC, BT Operate engineers will attend to it.  :)
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2012, 10:11:21 PM »

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One a few miles away had a BT striped tent over it for around a month, until the other day!

Ah, that will be the one from which the engineering staff obtained their essential provisions -- tea, coffee, biscuits, bacon rolls, etc.  ;)



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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2012, 10:14:29 PM »

 :lol: :lol:

shhhh thats supposed kept under wraps
BS wont be happy with you for letting out secrets of the trade  :drink:
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Re: Is take-up lower than hoped?
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2012, 08:37:44 AM »

Ha ha ....  :lol: :lol:

Before H&S took over the world, there may have been a gas-ring on the go in the tent ? There may have been a bit of bacon and egg sizzling away, whilst also keeping the chill out of the tent.

Fast forward to today, and sorry to burst the bubble, but the chances are the lads are grafting their nads off under that tent. Unrealistic targets dictate we aren't allowed to eat and drink. Having time to breath is luxury.
Am I wandering into a Monty Python sketch here ?? :)
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