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Title: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: tickmike on July 15, 2017, 02:49:13 PM
Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
How do you update a fixed car sat-nav ?, you can not connect it to your laptop or can you  :hmm:
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: d2d4j on July 15, 2017, 03:10:35 PM
Hi tickmike

I believe it depends on the sat nav. Older cars perhaps not, but modem headunits can usually use 3/4g or wifi, and download latest versions and real time traffic etc...

I know our headunit is updated over wifi/3/4g

The only thing to remember is if factory fit headunit, the cat manufacture usually only includes approx 3 years subscription for updates, then you start to pay for updates

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: Ronski on July 15, 2017, 03:41:54 PM
The one in MY 2009 VW is updated via the CD player, I think it may also be possible via the SD card slot.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: jaydub on July 15, 2017, 11:47:58 PM
I've got a horrible feeling my 2012 VW Passat can only be upgraded by the main dealer, which is a bit of a shame as the blank screen moments are becoming steadily more often.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: tickmike on July 16, 2017, 01:09:28 AM
We are going to look at a new Vauxhall Mokka X, It's another thing I will ask about when I go for a test drive.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on July 16, 2017, 01:23:55 AM
I think some are updated via the car's CD drive, with suitable licence fee payable.  On a new car, maybe make sure updates are free within warranty?

TBH, I'd question whether it is worth updating, at least by the time a car is 3 or 4 years old.  It's not just the maps that will be out of date, so will the hardware, and the screen's backlighting will be past its best.   Some folks would just abandon the built in sat nav at that point, in favour of an up to date accessory, or just a smartphone.

To be fair though, never had a car with built in Sat Nav, so who am I to comment. :)
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: tickmike on July 16, 2017, 01:39:38 AM
Just done a 'Google' search and it looks like Vauxhall have a web store and the map update is £119  :o
If you remember from a post I did not long ago I have only just bought a TomTom Go 620 Sat-Nav
that updates over WiFi with free lifetime maps.
But it is all the faffing about putting on the windscreen taking it off again if you stop etc.then putting it back on again. >:(

The update (£119) comes on a USB stick that you plug in to the car entertainment system to update the sat-nav, anyone know what type of file it would be ?.

whats stopping you downloading and putting your own maps on ?.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: freelander on July 16, 2017, 07:29:58 AM

If you remember from a post I did not long ago I have only just bought a TomTom Go 620 Sat-Nav
that updates over WiFi with free lifetime maps.
But it is all the faffing about putting on the windscreen taking it off again if you stop etc.then putting it back on again. >:(


Have a look for a Brodit mount ,they clip in to the joints in the dash and look as though they are oem , it's the first accessory I buy when we change the car   hodls the sat nav rock seady and very easy to use
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: Ronski on July 16, 2017, 07:44:13 AM
I've got a horrible feeling my 2012 VW Passat can only be upgraded by the main dealer, which is a bit of a shame as the blank screen moments are becoming steadily more often.

What model head unit is it? Mine is an RNS510 and is quite easy to get updates for  ;)

To be fair though, never had a car with built in Sat Nav, so who am I to comment. :)

Mine is 8yrs old and is still working ok, but I do need be careful which updates I apply as newer hardware versions of my head unit software are not compatible.

whats stopping you downloading and putting your own maps on ?.

Research is all it normally takes  ;)
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: d2d4j on July 16, 2017, 08:17:43 AM
Hi

It's worth mentioning that you can change an old headunit for a new one, which s cheaper then changing car, and usually the new headunit is capable of more features, such as dvr, rear camera, tpms etc. Just google xtrons, but there are many other makers

Also, I believe a lot of modern headunit are capable of mobile mirroring, to use the sat nav (or other features of mobile device)

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: sevenlayermuddle on July 16, 2017, 09:15:01 AM
Since discovering that my phone can be configured to play map directions over the car's audio (using Bluetooth) that's all I use these days. 

I don't bother mounting it anywhere visible, it stays in my pocket or in the glove box, as I've got to quite like just having audio.  Now when I try to use a visible map screen I find myself feeling that it can be an uncomfortable distraction, especially if it means taking eyes off the road at the worst possible moments, like negotiating unfamiliar junctions.

But that's just me, others may not find them so distracting.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: HPsauce on July 16, 2017, 09:31:47 PM
My older car (an Audi) uses a CD for maps. You buy a new one, but I already have the latest and there will be no more.  :( (Cheap CD copies are legion!)
My newer car (a Volvo) updates from a USB drive; you download the latest maps/software (roughly every 6 months) from the Volvo web site free of charge.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: tickmike on July 16, 2017, 09:44:13 PM
My newer car (a Volvo) updates from a USB drive

Could you please look what file format it is on the USB if you have one lying about.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: d2d4j on July 16, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
Hi tickmike

Sorry, one question you want to ask the dealership, which Honda offer at service point, is they update all software during the service.

Many thanks

John
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: jaydub on July 17, 2017, 12:02:09 AM
What model head unit is it? Mine is an RNS510 and is quite easy to get updates for  ;)
Mine's an RNS 315 and it does appear I can buy a SD card with the 2017 maps for £50, although not from VW!
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: jelv on July 17, 2017, 08:06:49 AM
2014 Nissan X-Trail: The maps are held on an SD card which has to be in all the time. Updates are well over £100.

As we tow a caravan we have now bought a Garmin based unit (with free lifetime updates) through the Caravan Club which allows you to put in your outfit dimensions and then gives suitable directions.
Title: Re: Cars With A Installed Sat-Nav.
Post by: kitz on July 27, 2017, 12:32:05 PM
We are going to look at a new Vauxhall Mokka X, It's another thing I will ask about when I go for a test drive.

I have a Vauxhall.  It interacts with my phone over bluetooth or usb.   
This is the official video for Apple Support but theres also an app for Android.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GVb5MWyqr4[/youtube]


PS I notice on there it says connect your phone by USB.   
On mine most of the android phone functions are available via bluetooth, so it just autoconnects when I get in the car without me having to do anything and I keep my phone in my handbag.
I think maps and any personal music stored on your phone need usb though.