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Title: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Weaver on March 15, 2017, 12:10:53 PM
I used to use Windows Messenger [aka MSN Messenger aka Live Messenger] all the time. It seemed to die a horrible death. God only knows why. A real shame, as it was a zero-hassle way of getting the wonderful Remote Assistance going, which I used to use all the time in my work. It was superb in WinXp because it was in every box, albeit a rather old version.

When VIsta came out, for some crazy reason to do with politics, Windows Messenger was no longer preinstalled, and I had to install this thing called Live Messenger with every installation. This was full of unrelated bloatware crap too, iirc. (It was a total pig to script that installation as well. In the end I wrote my own install-helper tool thing that made the installation process a lot cleaner, with no downloads and none of the bloat to start with.) This was a horrible decision by MS, and I think they were trying to push business users towards some other offering.

What finally happened to Windows Messenger/Live Messenger? And why? And what is the story about Remote Assistance these days?
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Ronski on March 15, 2017, 01:29:21 PM
I think this is the likely reason

https://www.wired.com/2011/05/microsoft-buys-skype-2/
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Weaver on March 15, 2017, 01:39:05 PM
I forgot about the Skype purchase. I presume they paid that insane amount of money, completely wasted, simply to stop Google and the rest from purchasing Skye. Either that, or out fear that by some miracle Skype might grow into the next Google or Facebook - stamping on acorns. I remember was it IBM buying Display Postscript off Adobe and then immediately burying it, and at the time I assumed that that was a similar case of acorn squashing.
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: burakkucat on March 15, 2017, 09:22:12 PM
. . . simply to stop Google and the rest from purchasing Skye.

I didn't realise that the Island was up for sale! How does it feel living in M$ land?  ::)
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Weaver on March 17, 2017, 11:40:33 AM
Oops ;D
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: huwwatkins on March 17, 2017, 11:53:37 AM
Remote assistance was separated out in Vista onward I believe.

https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/3276/invite-another-user-to-troubleshoot-your-windows-7-machine-with-remote-assistance/
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Weaver on March 17, 2017, 12:27:55 PM
Agreed. I remember that they omitted it in VIsta. There were several downloads available in the Win Xp days. There was the thing branded MSN which came complete with a certain amount UI crap and possibly ads. And there was an upgrade v5.1 version of Windows Messenger, which if I recall, could hook into some sort of corporate systems as well into the public cloud-hosted Microsoft central system.
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: WWWombat on March 18, 2017, 01:40:39 AM
And what is the story about Remote Assistance these days?

I never felt comfortable with Messenger.

For remote assistance nowadays, I tend to use TeamViewer
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: Weaver on March 18, 2017, 02:30:48 AM
Windows Xp's Remote Assistance was so brilliant, as novice computer users found it very easy to use and I could sort customers out even from four hundred or so miles away when I was working as a consultant sysadmin.
Title: Re: Windows Messenger - whatever happened to?
Post by: tickmike on March 18, 2017, 10:58:11 AM
Windows Xp's Remote Assistance was so brilliant, as novice computer users found it very easy to use and I could sort customers out even from four hundred or so miles away when I was working as a consultant sysadmin.
You need 'Teamviewer' for that.

www.teamviewer.com/en/