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Broadband Related => FTTC and FTTP Issues => Topic started by: MungO on March 09, 2017, 09:56:36 PM
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First post, total noob into this sort of thing, but i've found that this site & samknows have been totally invaluable for my thirst for knowledge intothe realms of Broadband / Fibre / Cabinets / Modems / Routers..
So onto my question.. does it matter what build cabinet you are connected to? Huawei or ECI?
Trying to find a place on the forum to post up my dial-up / adsl / vdsl (i think) / fibre journey..
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If you can get your line stats from the modem then you can copy & paste them into your post and if your a noob then read this - > http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php)
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Thanks for your replies. Massive learning curve here. I'm Cabinet P62 on this link. So it's a Huawei, was just wondering if there was much difference.
https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=196901&cabinets=10487
Was due to go live with FTTC on Tuesday, didn't happen, contacted Zen who spoke to Openreach, said there were problems in the Cabinet (i think i'm the first, or one of thefirst to get Fibre), which the 'multi-skilled engineer' fixed today, now a technician is going to connect me tomorrow afternoon (though i'm not holding out much hope..).
What sort of issues could the Multi-skilled person have encountered? Sorry if i'm being a dunce.
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So your not a noob then :D
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If you can get your line stats from the modem then you can copy & paste them into your post and if your a noob then read this - > http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php (http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.php)
Here you go. Hoping this time tomorrow night i see a massive improvement! :)
Mode: ADSL_2plus
Traffic Type: ATM
Status: Up
Link Power State: L0
Downstream Upstream
Line Coding(Trellis): On On
SNR Margin (0.1 dB): 61 55
Attenuation (0.1 dB): 640 373
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 170 124
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 2,380 895
Path 0 Path 1
Downstream Upstream Downstream Upstream
Rate (Kbps): 2,071 907 0 0
MSGc (# of bytes in overhead channel message): 59 11 0 0
B (# of bytes in Mux Data Frame): 64 27 0 0
M (# of Mux Data Frames in FEC Data Frame): 1 1 0 0
T (Mux Data Frames over sync bytes): 1 4 0 0
R (# of check bytes in FEC Data Frame): 0 0 0 0
S (ratio of FEC over PMD Data Frame length): 0.9885 0.9781 0.0 0.0
L (# of bits in PMD Data Frame): 526 229 0 0
D (interleaver depth): 1 1 0 0
Delay (msec): 0 0 0.0 0.0
INP (DMT symbol): 0.00 0.00 0.0 0.0
Super Frames: 0 0 0 0
Super Frame Errors: 4,390 111 0 0
RS Words: 0 3,696,560 0 0
RS Correctable Errors: 0 0 0 0
RS Uncorrectable Errors: 0 0 0 0
HEC Errors: 4,405 76 0 0
OCD Errors: 3 0 0 0
LCD Errors: 3 0 0 0
Total Cells: 183,848,179 80,562,000 0 0
Data Cells: 70,929,662 3,508,509 0 0
Bit Errors: 0 3,780 0 0
Total ES: 274 76
Total SES: 98 0
Total UAS: 4,164 4,164
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So your not a noob then :D
I read posts on here and i feel like a proper noob *mindblown*
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Question - Why are you so sure you are going to be the first person to go live on this new FTTC cabinet ?
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Question - Why are you so sure you are going to be the first person to go live on this new FTTC cabinet ?
Because i was checking the openreach website everyday for the last few years (i kid you not) and i've followed it from:
In Scope, Design, Field Survey, Build, Connect, Activate and then when it went to 'Superfast Accepting Orders on the 21.02.2017 i was straight on to Zen who placed my order and gave me a connection date of the 07.03.2017. Now knocked back to the 10.03.2017.
So i may not be THE first, but i can't be far off it :fingers:
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I take it you know were the FTTC cabinet is located and you have put your ear against it to gain a sense of activity (Live and ready to Go) ;)
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I take it you know were the FTTC cabinet is located and you have put your ear against it to gain a sense of activity (Live and ready to Go) ;)
If it wasn't for work getting in the way on Tuesday and tomorrow, i would've put my fishing stool next to the cabinet and waited all day just to make sure something happens ;D
Hopefully this time tomorrow night i'll be able to post up some better stats than those above!
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i would've put my fishing stool next to the cabinet and waited all day just to make sure something happens ;D
If you have been waiting 2 years for FTTC then a day is like a blink of an eye, come on tell us how far the cabinet is from your premises 100 200 300 meters with a nice 79999 Kbps DS and 20000 US :-\
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If you have been waiting 2 years for FTTC then a day is like a blink of an eye, come on tell us how far the cabinet is from your premises 100 200 300 meters with a nice 79999 Mbps DS and 20000 US :-\
I reckon it's about 250-300 yards away. Not sure what the other measurements are but if they improve on my current 1.7mb download and 0.3mb upload I'll be over the moon.
Your line will typically support up to 35.0Mbps download (Min. 22.4Mbps and Max. 47.3Mbps), 6.9Mbps upload
But I won't believe a thing until it happens.
As a community we've had quite the journey to get to this point.
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http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,19469.0.html
Bit more about being in a central notspot
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You can run the www.dslchecker.bt.com (http://www.dslchecker.bt.com) type in the phone number or full address it should come up with something very close to a line length of 250-300 meters and being a new cabinet without crosstalkers it should be 70+ Mbps as long as there are no issues with external or internal wiring
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I would be surprised if the synchronisation speed was anything less than 60 - 70 Mbps. :)
[Many years ago when b*cat was a new born b*kitteh, he lived not that far from Rotherhithe . . . just off to the SSE in SE13-land.]
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As the crow flies its property is 200 yards from the cabinet.
Any idea what these figures tell us? I can see that it's a B connection and it's impacted, anyone help with what that means in lay terms?
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So onto my question.. does it matter what build cabinet you are connected to? Huawei or ECI?
Huawei is definitely better, especially if you have a noisy line.
Your screen shot shows a maximum estimated speed of 47 Mbps, so your line must be around 500 meters long.You may get more or less.
Range A is for a clean line with no wiring problems, range B is if you have bad wiring basically. Most ISP'S quote the impacted range in estimates for obvious reasons.
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As the crow flies its property is 200 yards from the cabinet.
Don't use the straight line approach use the road as the path from your premises to the FTTC cabinet and also look for marked BT manhole covers these are the joints all the way to your PCP cabinet.
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I can see that it's a B connection . . .
Huh? ??? How?
I think you have misunderstood the sentence, which uses Ofcom's archaic definition, that "This line is on a Market B Exchange." That has nothing to do with the line status of being either "Clean" or "Impacted".
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Huh? ??? How?
I think you have misunderstood the sentence, which uses Ofcom's archaic definition, that "This line is on a Market B Exchange." That has nothing to do with the line status of being either "Clean" or "Impacted".
I can't even remember how i worked that out.
Seems to be up and running, speeds varying between 28-33mb download and 8-9mb upload. The only downside is that i can't seem to use my TP-Link Router, i have to use the ZyXel one from Zen and the wi-fi is terrible on it in terms of distance.
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Seems to be up and running, speeds varying between 28-33mb download and 8-9mb upload.
That's certainly not what I was expecting. :(
The only downside is that i can't seem to use my TP-Link Router, i have to use the ZyXel one from Zen . . .
Perhaps if you were to disclose the model number of both devices, the TP-Link and the ZyXEL, someone might be able to assist you.
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Okay been up and running with this FTTC palava for a couple of weeks now.
Whilst the speeds are generally less than what was quoted by both OpenReach and Zen (typically 35mb download / 6.9mb upload), it's still around 40x faster than my original speeds of around 0.5mb :)
The TP-Link router was a dud, so been running with the ZyXel VMG1312-B10D, the wifi reach on it seems poor but its doing a job for the time-being.
I still feel that my line is a poor one though. Here's the stats from the Zyxel, i've read the guides and have a rough idea of what i'm looking at (apart from error things), but what i wouldn't mind an answer to (as i have no real benchmark) is that are these figures comparable to a 'decent' line and what sort of speeds would you expect?
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 5 days: 21 hours: 4 minutes
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VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 8.597 Mbps 38.710 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 8.573 Mbps 38.711 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 6.5 dB 2.9 dB
Actual Delay: 0 ms 0 ms
Transmit Power: 2.9 dBm 12.2 dBm
Receive Power: -19.1 dBm -19.1 dBm
Actual INP: 0.0 symbols 50.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 22.0 dB 31.4 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 8.573 Mbps 33.091 Mbps
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VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 10.1 45.4 N/A N/A 19.2 53.0 79.3
Signal Attenuation(dB): 10.1 45.0 N/A N/A 29.5 52.8 N/A
SNR Margin(dB): 6.5 6.5 N/A N/A 2.9 3.0 N/A
Transmit Power(dBm):- 9.1 2.6 N/A N/A 10.3 7.8 N/A
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VDSL Counters
Downstream Upstream
Since Link time = 4 min 17 sec
FEC: 56424719 0
CRC: 94 1545
ES: 22 1304
SES: 0 48
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Latest 15 minutes time = 5 min 59 sec
FEC: 67199 0
CRC: 0 0
ES: 0 0
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
FEC: 175147 0
CRC: 0 4
ES: 0 4
SES: 0 0
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: N/A
Latest 1 day time = 4 hours 35 min 59 sec
FEC: 3266199 0
CRC: 0 99
ES: 0 61
SES: 0 2
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Previous 1 day time = 24 hours 0 sec
FEC: 10315066 0
CRC: 12 369
ES: 4 277
SES: 0 41
UAS: 0 0
LOS: 0 0
LOF: 0 0
LOM: 0 0
Retr: 0
Total time = 1 days 4 hours 35 min 59 sec
FEC: 145442805 3488
CRC: 2271 3130
ES: 74 2757
SES: 39 63
UAS: 293 254
LOS: 3 0
LOF: 20 0
LOM: 13 0
Retr: 3
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Off on another tangent, this forum has a wealth of knowledge in a World that i barely knew existed. Was reading on another thread about the telephony and wiring on old properties and was truly enlightening!