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Computer Software => Linux => Topic started by: tickmike on July 18, 2016, 07:15:07 PM

Title: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 18, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
I'm just looking for a cheap secondhand laptop/notebook to take on holidays with me, it's got to be able to have Linux put on it.
Is there any way just looking at the 'processor specs' to tell if it will be ok for 64Bit OS ?, or does it have to say 32Bit or 64Bit or both ?.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: burakkucat on July 18, 2016, 08:02:47 PM
Almost all modern laptops/notebooks will have a 64-bit processor.

Certainly any of the Intel Core2Duo, Core2Quad, i3, i5, i7, etc, processors will be 64-bit.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: broadstairs on July 18, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
Plus most of the AMD processors.....

Stuart
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: kitzuser87430 on July 18, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
I suggest buying a chromebook if you are not against google (don't be evil) then unlocking the bootloader and install linux via crouton.

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343 (http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343)

Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 18, 2016, 11:22:05 PM
Ok.
But the one I was looking at (HP 2133) has Win7 32Bit loaded, Does that say anything ?.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Dray on July 19, 2016, 05:49:45 AM
Why does it matter if it's 32 or 64 bit?

If it's a 32 bit machine then you can load a 32 bit operating system. If it's a 64 bit machine then you can load a 32 bit or a 64 bit operating system.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Ronski on July 19, 2016, 06:15:48 AM
It really wasn't difficult, two searches later and it has a x86  (32 bit) CPU.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_2133_Mini-Note_PC
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIA_C7

Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Chrysalis on July 19, 2016, 10:18:37 AM
Why does it matter if it's 32 or 64 bit?

If it's a 32 bit machine then you can load a 32 bit operating system. If it's a 64 bit machine then you can load a 32 bit or a 64 bit operating system.

32bit operating systems have a lot of limitations, 64 bit is alot more than just able to use larger amounts of system memory.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Dray on July 19, 2016, 10:23:56 AM
What about an example showing why 64 bit is a requirement here?
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 19, 2016, 10:43:20 AM
Thanks, I will not bother to bit on that one.

With the support for 32Bit on a Linux based operating system being phased out it's not worth getting a older machine that only will take 32Bit OS.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Dray on July 19, 2016, 10:52:01 AM
Even if Ubuntu dropped support today, they would still be supporting 16.04 until 2021. Do you think you'll still be working with those laptops in another 5 years?
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: Chrysalis on July 19, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
If its just desktop use not server use it might be ok, Dray I wasnt saying dont use it :) just warning that using 32bit has multiple implications over 64bit.  A lot of people think 64bit only matters if you need more than 4 gig of ram.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: roseway on July 19, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
On Linux there's an optional PAE (Physical Address Extension) kernel which allows a 32-bit OS to address much more memory than 4 GB. This works very well unless you have unusually high performance needs. Debian (for example) employs a PAE kernel as standard in its 32-bit releases.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 19, 2016, 05:09:17 PM
@Eric As do PCLinuxOS 32bit but they have stopped doing any updates for 32bit OS.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: licquorice on July 19, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
If its just a notebook to take on holiday, 32bit Ubuntu will be more than adequate.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 19, 2016, 07:09:30 PM
Ubuntu
:thumbdown:
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: licquorice on July 19, 2016, 09:46:41 PM
What's wrong with Ubuntu?
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: broadstairs on July 19, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
If it is no longer supporting 32bit then I guess that's what wrong with it. In my view 64bit is the only sensible option as 32bit will be phased out at some point and since you can run 32bit OS on 64bit processor if you need 32bit for some application then you can still load a 32bit OS. Even the Raspberry PI has gone 64bit  ;)

Stuart
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: licquorice on July 19, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Ubuntu still supports 32bit
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: broadstairs on July 19, 2016, 10:23:30 PM
I'd still buy 64bit only  ;)

Stuart
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: licquorice on July 19, 2016, 10:34:17 PM
This is a requirement for a cheap netbook for a bit of email and browsing whilst on holiday. ANYTHING will do!!! If you don't update for 10 years, so what?
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 19, 2016, 11:47:22 PM
What's wrong with Ubuntu?
Now I use PCLinuxOS Ubuntu has got nothing on it.
Every person to there own.  :)
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: loonylion on July 20, 2016, 03:29:10 AM
watch out for atom cpus, they're almost all 32 bit.
Title: Re: Processor 64Bit !
Post by: tickmike on July 20, 2016, 10:46:08 AM
Ok thanks.