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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 04:25:30 PM »

I shall look forward to your comments 7LM.  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 11:30:52 PM »

Guess what OF...?  You'll not be surprised to hear that... you're 100% right! Wink

What seems to happen is as follows...:

1) If subtitles are enabled (displayed) from the button on the remote, then they get recorded.

2) If subtitles are disabled from the button, but I set that obscure menu option to 'enable subtitle recording', then it just seems to override the remote's button for the duration of the recording, so they are displayed on screen during recording and, accordingly, added to the recording.

In either case, when the recording is played back, subtitles are 'permanent', you can't switch them on and off.

I'd love to know why subtitles aren't handled better.  With my (very) limited undesrtanding of MPEG streams, I thought subtitles were just encoded in the MPEG.   The recorder 'understands' MPEG, as it can decode the broadcast MPEG and generate the recorded MPEG, so why can't it just put the subtitles back in their original form?

I know this is getting somewhat off topic from the original post, so I'm hoping Uncle UB is still enjoying the debate he's spawned  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2009, 12:13:49 AM »


2) If subtitles are disabled from the button, but I set that obscure menu option to 'enable subtitle recording', then it just seems to override the remote's button for the duration of the recording, so they are displayed on screen during recording and, accordingly, added to the recording.

I thought subtitles were just encoded in the MPEG.

2) It's possibly done that way so as just to differentiate the subs from what is being recorded and what you are actually watching because you may be watching a different channel and not want the subs (if any) being displayed.

No they are not actually encoded into the movie, they are actually in the .IFO file on a DVD, which is not available when a movie is being transmitted.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2009, 10:22:59 AM »

Thanks 7LM for doing that bit of research. Smiley

It sounds as though subtitles will not be a problem then. Smiley

As I have said it is an absolute must for me.I always make sure a film has subtitles before I buy it.
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