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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2016, 05:44:56 PM »

I'm putting this out live today. 
http://www.kitz.co.uk/routers/tplink_TD-W9970_review.htm

TBH Ive got a few things on this week and to be perfectly frank I had a really good poke around for several hours with the GUI and couldnt find any bugs.  For the time it was on my line it was rock steady with the SNRm not fluctuating.   The GUI is borrowed from the TD-W9980 which has already had most bugs ironed out and with its tried and trusted BCM6338 chipset I dont expect it to run into any problems and dont see the point in delaying the review and Im trying to clear up a pile of outstanding admin stuff, so I thought Id get it done and dusted and out of the way.

My honest opinion its a good little modem for those on a budget.  The wireless is certainly OK considering its only wireless N.
 
Its not for me though, because of its lack of GbE ports as I back up to a NAS and dont want to use a separate switch.  This is the only reason why I never bothered with a Billion 8800NL.   
The lack of compatability with DSLstats was the other reason.  I realise this may not bother some people and at least it does have a more info available than say the home hubs.   
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2016, 06:10:47 PM »

According to the logs in this thread, the chipset is the BCM63381 (which may make sense as the press release describes it as a "cost-efficient" chipset).
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2016, 06:37:56 PM »

Ooh thank you ejs.   
I tried to get inside it.   Theres 2 screws which are easy enough to undo, but there appear to be a heck of a lot of retaining clips holding on the white plastic cover.    I tried to wedge a small flat head screw driver from the back of the unit which looks like the first place to attack but it wasn't yielding for me :(

Ive just had a look at Saffy's image (link).  To me it looks like BCM6338TUKMML G, but it could actually be BCM63381
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2016, 07:49:16 PM »

After downloading Saffy's image, cropping it, enhancing it and enlarging it to 150% I believe it reads as --

BCM63381UKMML G
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2016, 01:01:57 PM »

  With use of the ttl serial port at each boot full xdslcmd stats are possible over telnet and should work with dslstats.  I will be trying dslstats this way in day or so.


  http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17108.msg315137.html#msg315137
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2016, 05:43:45 PM »

  Further above dslstats worked perfectly with the settings HG635 (random choice) login admin:1234 no shell command and xdslctl.  Also perfect upload to MDWS where stats from it will be visible for an hours tonight.  I am expecting to remove it due to not quite trusting the stats.  The attenuation it reports is high and the snrm's a bit odd.  Some of that may be due to the speed cap imposed.  For the day prior to the 9970 MDWS shows an H612 with same speed cap.   One hour is not enough to test errors but the rate looked to be similar to a 63168 chipset sevice such as Zyxel 8234.  On my line that always seem about 3 times the rate of an HG612 but many others don't find such differences.

 
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2016, 10:00:52 AM »

  @Kitz  Thanks to the good work of ejs and kitzuser87430 the TP 9970 can now be made to provide full Broadcom CLI access.  All by just uploading a config file (no soldering). You may wish update your review some time.

 Please see http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17108.msg315358.html#msg315358 and surrounds. 

 As noted above  DSLstats and MDWS then work perfectly with the settings HG635 (random choice) login-  admin:1234, no shell command, cli command prefix xdslctl and telnet port 1023.  I don't know how the modem choices influence things in DSLstats but I think choosing HG635 may just invoke HG622 type.
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2016, 05:23:03 PM »

Cheers les...  and a big well done to ejs & kitzuser.  :yay:  I'll certainly put something up on the main site later :)
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 07:53:20 AM »

  After a full day and a half of testing I find the 9970 is not quite as good as e.g. a ZyXEL VMG1312 or Billion 8800NL. The error rate is seems a bit higher than those and other 63168 devices.  The wireless n is also not as good.  Nothing too bad but I would say mediocre performance - a touch of getting what you pay for perhaps.

 I have gone back to a HG612 which gives me the best error rates.  I use this along with my old Dlink DIR 655 which is gigabit and with very solid wireless n -- 33Mb/s in the worse location in the house compared with 2-3Mb/s in the same location with the 9970 (even after fiddling with the antennae).
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2016, 10:55:14 AM »

  As an update with G.inp on and ECI CAB the 9970 gives me by a good margin, the lowest errors in terms of the FEC counts and upstream ES.  The sync rates are not brilliant but I was tempted to try it in modem only mode. i.e. bridged.  As such it works but fine but as soon as you connect the WAN socket the other lan ports are disabled so getting stats continuously seems beyond me at the moment. 

  I recall people accessing modems over the WAN connection and if any one knows how it might be done I would welcome advice.
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2016, 03:56:10 PM »

Here are a couple of links to research for you

http://bytebasket.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77:accessing-a-dsl-modem-behind-a-pppoe-router&catid=45:how-to&Itemid=76

https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=10952

You need to add a vlan interface and run an iptables command; what router are you using?
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2016, 05:31:31 PM »

 Thanks for the links.  i will use those and a few examples that I found on kitz forum for my next tries. 
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Re: TP-Link W9970
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2017, 01:57:59 AM »

I know it has been a long time since this topic was updated, but the way I am getting stats is over wireless. I am using the WD9970 in bridge mode with a DSL-N55U router because the modem on that is rubbish.

Currently waiting for vdsl2 to go live but using on an ADSL2+ LLU line. I plugged a wireless dongle in my upstairs pc and set static addressing on the adapter with a gateway of 192.168.1.250 the same IP I set the WD9970 Lan to using a laptop when doing the quick setup.

I have a long ethernet cable from the WAN port on the WD9970 to the WAN port on the DSL-N55U and didnt want to run another cable. The other options were to use Powerline but some say it affects VDSL so then there was the idea of an economiser/splitter for the ethernet cable but I eventually settled on wifi into the WD9970.

I found the configuration file to enable telnetd on the Hack thread uploaded that, plugged laptop into one of the LAN ports and configured the wireless with WPA2 and a key, now I am telnetting in over wifi on port 1023 with DSLStats.
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